urbaneve71
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in your opion -- but if you have to ask what sexisim is -- who is being silly now LOL 
I need your help! Survey on women/gender in diving.
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Bubblesong
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I took your survey, but it is not the dive community that has sexism, they are welcoming and expect the same high standards for women as for men, " You are responsible for your own survival". In both cases.
It is the wider world that casts diving as macho, and women's magazines that focus on C-cup instead of See the World.
It is the wider world that casts diving as macho, and women's magazines that focus on C-cup instead of See the World.
Bubblesong
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Do your daughters also dive? What do they say about this? My daughter has found SCUBA to be challenging, and no "talking down" to her. But so far we have dove with popular recreational dive shops and resorts.
If a female tried to start a career in commercial diving, I wonder if the professionals would say she is not strong enough, or would they say, "finally we have a diver small enough to squeeze into that cramped location needing repairs"
If a female tried to start a career in commercial diving, I wonder if the professionals would say she is not strong enough, or would they say, "finally we have a diver small enough to squeeze into that cramped location needing repairs"
drrich2
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Hi:
Interesting subject. A few thoughts on your survey.
1.) Posted in the women's perspectives forum, I thought it was only for female divers. Judging from the 1st question, which I only saw because I realized men were also responding, that's not true, but it's going to skew your participation sample.
2.) As a man, it's very hard (and maybe presumptuous) for me to answer questions about what (on a graded scale of multiple factors) keeps women away from diving. I don't see a 'no opinion' option.
3.) When you ask if I see my gender represented in the dive community, of course, I'm a man. I assume your survey will break it down by gender as to the answers.
4.) I got a laugh about whether dive media outlets (ad.s, I presume?) reflect men & women in diving. Judging from criticism I've read in a number of threads, if the guy is young and lean instead of older and chubby, the answer is 'no.' So while I think the answer is 'no,' that's true to advertising in general (using fit, attractive models, when most adult Americans are overweight or obese), so my answer wouldn't mean what you might think it means.
At least so far, I didn't finish your survey, because I cannot answer question 5.) and don't consider wild guessing constructive.
Richard.
Interesting subject. A few thoughts on your survey.
1.) Posted in the women's perspectives forum, I thought it was only for female divers. Judging from the 1st question, which I only saw because I realized men were also responding, that's not true, but it's going to skew your participation sample.
2.) As a man, it's very hard (and maybe presumptuous) for me to answer questions about what (on a graded scale of multiple factors) keeps women away from diving. I don't see a 'no opinion' option.
3.) When you ask if I see my gender represented in the dive community, of course, I'm a man. I assume your survey will break it down by gender as to the answers.
4.) I got a laugh about whether dive media outlets (ad.s, I presume?) reflect men & women in diving. Judging from criticism I've read in a number of threads, if the guy is young and lean instead of older and chubby, the answer is 'no.' So while I think the answer is 'no,' that's true to advertising in general (using fit, attractive models, when most adult Americans are overweight or obese), so my answer wouldn't mean what you might think it means.
At least so far, I didn't finish your survey, because I cannot answer question 5.) and don't consider wild guessing constructive.
Richard.
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I didn't see where you asked the responder's sex, so if II say that "I see my sex represented", what does that even mean?
Do I see sexism in diving? Well, sure, I see it in society, diving is part of society, so yes, there's sexism there. Don't you really want to ask whether se see sexism MORE in diving than in society in general? The main way I see sexism in diving is that more men do it than women, by maybe a 2 - 1 margin. But maybe that just represents a differing opinion of what "sexism" is.
Just look at a LeisurePro ad, where typically a guy is carrying his equipment out to the ocean and a beautiful blond in a bikini is with him.
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Do I see sexism in diving? Well, sure, I see it in society, diving is part of society, so yes, there's sexism there. Don't you really want to ask whether se see sexism MORE in diving than in society in general? The main way I see sexism in diving is that more men do it than women, by maybe a 2 - 1 margin. But maybe that just represents a differing opinion of what "sexism" is.
Just look at a LeisurePro ad, where typically a guy is carrying his equipment out to the ocean and a beautiful blond in a bikini is with him.
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in your opion -- but if you have to ask what sexisim is -- who is being silly now LOL
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