Permanent solution to fogging on the Scuba Masks involving Nanotechnology

[TrimixToo]

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Ah, a spendthrift, I see. The dollar store stuff works just as well... ;-)

 

[TrimixToo]

Dear Users,

Thank you for your understanding and patience regarding the fogging issues with scuba masks. We greatly appreciate your valuable feedback and the time you took to share your insights.

We are excited to share that our team is actively working on a revolutionary solution utilising cutting-edge nanotechnology. This advanced approach holds the promise of providing a permanent solution to mask fogging, ensuring clear vision during every dive. Your input is invaluable as we strive to enhance the diving experience for everyone in the community.


We understand that there have been various temporary solutions to mask fogging, such as using toothpaste, baby shampoo, or specialized sprays. However, we believe that nanotechnology can offer a superior, long-lasting solution. As soon as we have a beta version ready for testing, we would be more than happy to share a couple of masks with you. This will allow you to experience firsthand how effective this technology can be, and we are confident it will prove to be a game-changer.


Thank you once again for your understanding and support. We look forward to providing you with a fog-free diving experience soon.

Best regards,

Dario A Viana
CEO
VMI Consulting

This has a lot more words than it needs, and appears to have been written by a non-diver. Every diver would of course love to have a mask that never fogs. Everyone on this board also "understands the fogging issue."

But frankly, nobody cares what the solution is. Nanotechnology, chemistry, new materials, coatings, whatever. Cost, utility, ease of use, and durability matter in considering any solution. People will be excited, to whatever extent they get excited, by the function, not the solution of the buzzwords.

It's also not clear (pun intended) that you understand the existing solutions. Perhaps I can help. Toothpaste is used to remove the film left by manufacturing. It's a one-time application, not a "temporary solution." During the manufacturing of your product, that step will need to be addressed. Surfactants such as baby shampoo and dive industry packaged sprays and fluids marketed to divers at exorbitant prices require per-dive applications. As such, they are "temporary" in the sense that you use them on each dive, but they aren't really temporary solutions. Saliva works well for many people, too.

Just ask these questions: "What would you be willing to pay for a mask that never fogs?" And, "Would you buy a new mask if it never fogged?" Or, "Would you buy a product you could use in a single application to prevent your dive mask from fogging forever?"

Finally, remember that there's a lot of truth in the old saw: "Question: How to you make a small fortune in the dive industry? Answer: Start with a large one." If you can't hit a reasonable price point, divers will keep using spit or baby shampoo or whatever, and your investment dollars will just be...gone.

Sorry to be blunt, but I'm honestly trying to be helpful.

 

[el_mo]

Let's consider a parallel industry that deals with fogging masks that already employs a permanent "nanotechnology" solution for antifog: snowsports. These are often far more expensive than the average dive mask.

Yet despite the maturity of permanent anti fog solutions in this industry (which dwarfs the diving industry) and the immense resources of behemoths like Giro, Smith, etc. this problem still hasn't really been solved? Even the highest end goggles will fog eventually, and these are ideal conditions for eyewear, not the constant flooding, washing, and salt that dive masks must endure

This is my perspective as an avid skier that deals with fogging on the slopes and in the water. I have my doubts, but I hope I'm proven wrong and such a unicorn product can be delivered! I'd sure line up to buy one

 

[randini]

I still don't get how this (or even the bottled defog stuff) is a better option than just spitting in your mask. There's nothing to forget, run out or wear off and it's free.

 

[TrimixToo]

I still don't get how this (or even the bottled defog stuff) is a better option than just spitting in your mask. There's nothing to forget, run out or wear off and it's free.

When I was younger, my saliva worked fine. Then it didn't. These days I use dollar store baby shampoo. One bottle lasts several seasons. It's in the milk crate with my masks, reels, lights, lift bags, etc. so there is no danger of it being left behind.

 

[DivingLane]

I still don't get how this (or even the bottled defog stuff) is a better option than just spitting in your mask. There's nothing to forget, run out or wear off and it's free.

Huak tuah

 

[MacDuyver]

My favorite question

6. Willingness to Pay for Fogless Technology: How much value would you place on having crystal-clear vision during every dive with our advanced, permanent anti-fog scuba mask technology?


200 EUR

300 EUR

350 EUR

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I always get a kick out of these probing questions from the target population which are clearly designed to determine how much their pockets can be emptied.

I'll stick with burning it and using toothpaste with magic eraser as needed.

For €200 I can buy ANOTHER of the mask I dive, a lighter, AND a 50 year supply of baby shampoo.