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Dave, it has to do with the fact that I'm at the "don't know what I don't know" stage here. I KNOW what the DIR take on this is; I've evaluated the objections and made my own decisions. I DON'T know why non-DIR people who are much more experienced cave divers than I am are being negative about the decision, and I think knowing why would add to my database. There may be considerations I have not thought of.
 
I sometimes use a big crescent wrench as a hammer, I am not happy about it but I don't really care what anyone thinks about it.

:shocked2: You're gonna die!!!!!


:rofl3:
 
Folks ... it's Lynne ... with an "e" at the end ... I'm just sayin' ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
I think I was misunderstood. My post was addressing the folks who seemed to be implying that I was leaping into sidemount because it was "cool". So far, none of my DIR friends has said much to me about this. I don't expect them to like it, but that doesn't matter. I WAS surprised to see resistance from the non-DIR people, though . . .

It does not surprise me that your DIR friends have little to say about this. The vast majority of GUE/UTD trained divers have little, to zero, experience with SM. How could any of them really have an informed opinion. That is why watching your transition and where it ultimately leads will be so interesting to the rest of us. You are an insightful person, with the right attitude, who will be open to sharing the experience with the rest of us. I look forward to it.

I'm not quite sure why I should feel at all guilty about looking into a gear configuration that solves problems for me . . . Can any of you who are suggesting that explain WHY?

It has to do with the way human beings make decisions. 99.9% of us, 99.9% of the time make decisions on an emotional/intuitive level and then spend varying amounts of time rationalizing that decision. We do not do this consciously - we are not aware that we've already made the decision. Anyone who is successful in sales has this human behavior well figured out. It does not matter how intelligent/sophisticated the person is. I have seen this behavior in people from all walks of life, the only difference is the level of rationalization.

You have buyers remorse...it will pass...it always does. Best of luck as you transition into SM!
 
I think I was misunderstood. My post was addressing the folks who seemed to be implying that I was leaping into sidemount because it was "cool". So far, none of my DIR friends has said much to me about this. I don't expect them to like it, but that doesn't matter. I WAS surprised to see resistance from the non-DIR people, though . . .
Having cut my tech teeth in a DIR-centric class, a choice I made after a year and a half of careful consideration of all the options available to me, I have 2psi of input here.
I am very glad I made the decision, as the rigor of the course and the training standards really helped discipline my position in the water and turbo-charged my skill set. I liken it to having gone thru scuba boot camp, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
That being said, I hold true to the claimed principle of any rational instructor that the ultimate goal is to produce a thinking diver. Too often in discussions with the DIR folk I hear/read what begins to sound/look like blind adherence to a set of principles because the group-think is that this is the best way to do things.
I like to use the best tool for the job at hand.
When I did Cave 1 my instructor (who is adamantly not DIR) taught the course in sidemount. After seeing how stable he was in the water, how easily he moved through the bedding planes, and how easy he had it getting from the lot to the water, all the while I'm humping a set of 104's, I'm sitting in the water saying to myself that this looks like a much better way to do things.
I have been playing with the idea for some time now, after jumping in the pool with just a stage and a BP, using lung volume to control buoyancy, and I have to say that the experience was liberating on many different levels. Those "old timers" (no disrespect) who used the Hawaiian sling were definitely on to something...
I am pursuing SM for the same reasons that I think you are: it seems like it is much easier on the body, and provides a much more stable platform in the water: in essence it seems, for many applications, a better way to do things. DIR is only as good as the diver who thinks it through for him/herself. For me I see it as an appropriate method about 85% of the time, but not the only method. For the other 15% of the time there are better alternatives. Case in point would be the train of thought that would bring someone to believe that a 160lb DIR compliant rebreather is a good idea... I just don't see it - but that is just me. When I think about it it is like handing a guy a hammer, after a while, everything begins to look like a nail. Sometimes it is much better to use a screwdriver. I see many folks (some whom I respect very much) get trapped by the DIR mentality and never think outside the box.
Ultimately a diver should completely think through their configuration, and know it's strengths and weaknesses - if you find yourself saying "there's a better way" you'd be foolish not to pursue it.
 
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I think I started this, Scott. When Lynne said she had to give up the cupcake (no longer assimilated DIR), I suggested that the DIR community should petition GUE / UTD to add sidemount to its accepted tools.

It is an active topic within UTD
UTD Side Mount Diving - Unified Team Diving
 
I think I started this, Scott. When Lynne said she had to give up the cupcake (no longer assimilated DIR), I suggested that the DIR community should petition GUE / UTD to add sidemount to its accepted tools.

Sounds like an awful amount of effort to keep the cupcake. TSandM could decide to utilize neon green splits fins every other Saturday and still be considered as one of the top advocates for DIR diving in the entire industry...
 
Now there's a picture I'd like to see on a calendar...
 
Having cut my tech teeth in a DIR-centric class, a choice I made after a year and a half of careful consideration of all the options available to me, I have 2psi of input here.
I am very glad I made the decision, as the rigor of the course and the training standards really helped discipline my position in the water and turbo-charged my skill set. I liken it to having gone thru scuba boot camp, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
That being said, I hold true to the claimed principle of any rational instructor that the ultimate goal is to produce a thinking diver. Too often in discussions with the DIR folk I hear/read what begins to sound/look like blind adherence to a set of principles because the group-think is that this is the best way to do things.
I like to use the best tool for the job at hand.
When I did Cave 1 my instructor (who is adamantly not DIR) taught the course in sidemount. After seeing how stable he was in the water, how easily he moved through the bedding planes, and how easy he had it getting from the lot to the water, all the while I'm humping a set of 104's, I'm sitting in the water saying to myself that this looks like a much better way to do things.
I have been playing with the idea for some time now, after jumping in the pool with just a stage and a BP, using lung volume to control buoyancy, and I have to say that the experience was liberating on many different levels. Those "old timers" (no disrespect) who used the Hawaiian sling were definitely on to something...
I am pursuing SM for the same reasons that I think you are: it seems like it is much easier on the body, and provides a much more stable platform in the water: in essence it seems, for many applications, a better way to do things. DIR is only as good as the diver who thinks it through for him/herself. For me I see it as an appropriate method about 85% of the time, but not the only method. For the other 15% of the time there are better alternatives. Case in point would be the train of thought that would bring someone to believe that a 160lb DIR compliant rebreather is a good idea... I just don't see it - but that is just me. When I think about it it is like handing a guy a hammer, after a while, everything begins to look like a nail. Sometimes it is much better to use a screwdriver. I see many folks (some whom I respect very much) get trapped by the DIR mentality and never think outside the box.
Ultimately a diver should completely think through their configuration, and know it's strengths and weaknesses - if you find yourself saying "there's a better way" you'd be foolish not to pursue it.

Thank you - you've neatly summarized what I've observed on the Internet.
 
So, having thoroughly exhausted the segue, can we get back to the original topic? Anybody using sidemount who can pass along things they DON'T like about it?
 

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