YOKE vs DIN

[wetb4igetinthewater]

I was a mechanic for thirty+ years. I apprenticed as a machinist in college and even worked as a welder as well. This is a must-have tool for me and I own three. The jarring of the hammer with the turning of the anvil will break almost any insert free. If you have just an Allen wrench, then bump it with your hands or even a hammer to break it free. Most people just add more and more torque until the tool rounds out the fastener.

you did build yourself a pretty nice van

 

[Belzelbub]

This is a must-have tool for me and I own three. The jarring of the hammer with the turning of the anvil will break almost any insert free.

Yep. Totally agree. Must have tool. I can't remember the reason I bought one several years ago (apart from something not coming apart), but I'm glad I did. I find occasions to use it fairly regularly.

I've never had to use one on a SCUBA cylinder, though. I would imagine that could be a bit awkward for anyone nearby.

But, I do say that prevention is best here. If using the insert, removing them occasionally will be helpful. I don't use them, but I do loosen and tighten the lug nuts on my trailer a couple times a year. Don't want to find out that they won't come loose on the side of the road.

 

[broncobowsher]

I have one of those impact drivers. Got it for working on Japanese motorcycles. The Phillips screws will cam out if you try and loosen stuff by hand. But that thing works magic. Don't use it often, but when you need it, it is like magic.

Never tried it on inserts. I can only say you will need a good quality impact allen to pair with it. I would really like to see one with a step on it so it bottoms on the insert and not on the back of the valve.

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

Never tried it on inserts. I can only say you will need a good quality impact allen to pair with it.

So Harbor Freight is a no go?

 

[sourdough]

If the overwhelming evidence pressurizing this thread hasn't demonstrated the superiority of DIN to you yet...

Behold the danger of YOKE


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[broncobowsher]

So you just need to keep the tank strap tight and things will be OK, that is what I see.

 

[El Diablo]

Whatever. Personally, if you're not an American and an American says that you're wrong, I would go with the person living here. There's a distinct possibility that I know Americans better than you. But you do you! One could also say that YOU'RE "used to" yoke regulators as well, so stop with the geopolitical stuff already.

In the end, fit and comfort should prevail. If you like yokes and they work for you, then get one. If DIN seems better, then get that one. They both are fun and will deliver all the air you need, just don't wear split fins.

That surely makes for a productive conversation... When you run out of any logical answers your reply is: Whatever. Not very polite IMO but you do you!

For some reason you believe that:

a) You represent all Americans
b) An American is the only source of information about scuba diving trends in the US

The fact that YOKE is the Standard in the USA is NOT my personal opinion.
Wikipedia: CGA 850 Yoke connectors (sometimes called A-clamps from their shape) are the most popular regulator connection in North America and several other countries.

Europeans are used to BOTH but we tend towards DIN for all of the aforementioned benefits.

 

[El Diablo]

I have not heard you use the word "malaka" or yell "arxidia!" even once, so I'm not so sure.

Works both ways Kosti mou...

 

[El Diablo]

I got my first regulator set (HOG D3) for my last dive trip. It's a DIN set. I also have an adapter, which I used on all the dives. Once I figured out the ideal positioning for the tank on my back, I didn't even notice the adapter, though it would have been nice to dive with the lower DIN profile.

I did notice that the tanks all had the removable insert, but I didn't have an allen key with me. I'd like to not have to purchase an entire set of keys; which size would be the one to get to keep in my dive bag, or is there a particular recommended tool?

Most inserts use an 8mm Allen key (less common is a 6mm key).
There are Y shape tools with different bits on them so you can carry one tool only.

 

[El Diablo]

If the overwhelming evidence pressurizing this thread hasn't demonstrated the superiority of DIN to you yet...

Behold the danger of YOKE


*this message has been bought & paid for by Big DIN*