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Why is a Jacket BC better than a BP/W?

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba Discussions' started by Mikko Ilari Laakkonen, Aug 21, 2014.

  1. diversteve

    diversteve always tired Rest in Peace ScubaBoard Supporter

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    If they're the "perfect" solution why would he ever need to?
     
  2. rongoodman

    rongoodman ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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  3. daniel f aleman

    daniel f aleman Loggerhead Turtle

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    Bob,

    We all get older, those valves just get further away. Again, I was just responding to the OP's question of: "2) in what kind of diving Jacket works better, why?" . I await his questions concerning regulator hose length for open water. :D
     
  4. eelnoraa

    eelnoraa DIR Practitioner

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    This is probably the worst item scubapro ever sell. In fact, it is the worst BC I have ever dived with ever. It combine the worst aspect of jacket and the worst aspect of BP/W together. There are way too many "bad" on this that I don't bother to type it out. Totally ridiculous.
     
  5. drrich2

    drrich2 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    The point of my analogy is that the price of having choice/customizability is having to make decisions, which can be very off-putting to people who just want to buy a product and go.

    What BP/W product is most 'off the shelf' equivalent to a traditional brand name weight-integrated BCD with pockets?

    Richard.
     
  6. Nemrod

    Nemrod Solo Diver

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    The primary reason, have heard it right here, that a buoyancy commentator is life support. The industry acceptance of and the promotion of the buoyancy compensator as a life jacket so that non swimmers can dive safely, like arm floaties on kids in kiddie pools, is the primary reason and it is ubiquitous.

    The BC is not a life jacket, is not a substitute for strong swimming skills and water confidence and is not life support and is not a certified USCG rated life preserver.

    That said, wing/BP, especially when (the diver and equipment) configured, trimmed and weighted improperly, will mash the face down into the water when inflated, which I assure you is most disconcerting to the typical, overweight, out of shape, elderly 50 something non swimmer SCUBA diver of today.

    N
     
  7. Dr. Lecter

    Dr. Lecter Solo Diver

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    SP Engineer: Ok, boss, here's our new X-Tek rig...we think we've managed to hybridize a Zeagle Ranger and one of our freakish Priced Like Halcyon BP&Ws pretty perfectly.

    SP Supervisor: I can still see a few spots of bare fabric without some kind of metal ring on it. Get back in the shop and try it again!

    ---------- Post added August 22nd, 2014 at 04:31 PM ----------

    Halcyon's complete single tank offerings with the optional weighted side pocket and ABC installed. They're not cheap, but that's the premium you pay for having someone else do the thinking and assembly for you.
     
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  8. Centrals

    Centrals Barangay Pasaway

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    The times they are a-changin.
    "Optional"! Back into good old day, there was only one choice!!
    Money talk.
     
  9. Eric Sedletzky

    Eric Sedletzky Great White

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    So you have actually used one of these?
    Tell us about it please, and don't hold back.
    Don't worry Scubapro can't sick their blood thirsty attorneys on you, it's only opinion.
    And remember, opinions are like A-holes, everybody's got one.
     
  10. giffenk

    giffenk Great White

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    Well it is intuitively obvious that BCDs are infinitely better than those BP/W thingys because "I" have BCD for sale...

    EOD.
     

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