How many times have you needed to drop weight?So many assumptions....but never enough 'what ifs'.....dry suits flood and dive buddy may not be near or able to assist or if diving solo not exist.. solo=self-sufficient; every diver should have "Plan Bs" when faced with an emergency that they can execute without assistance.....loosing a droppable weight can happen, ain't the end of the world; but in all my decades I have only had one weight go on a walk-about without my permission...guessing nowadays instruction on correct response to a 'blow up" [buoyant ascent] is not taught or practiced [flare/exhale]...again, your choice, drown trying to complete a deco stop or go to surface for a chance at surviving. DCI is bad; drowning is worse. ..dropping weights should be practiced , quickly accomplished and easy....if negatively buoyant and you can't drop weight to ascend and other options for surfacing are impossible you better have a buoyant ascent plan.... or you are DRT [Dead Right There]...got to surface to live....
Always risks..... but this is not rocket science...if you don't not have self-rescue options and have practiced them you should not be in the water...at least that is my opinion and I could be wrong...
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boqurant
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This is perhaps the most astute question! Personally I’ve never seen or heard of anyone needing to ditch weights - it’s purely hypothetical stuff from (some of) the training agencies.
Currently doing my Rescue course and TBH some of it seems nonsensical, esp regarding the sequencing of removing rescuer/recoverer and rescuer/recoveree gear… hey ho
iliketopetsharks
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Well its obviously hopeless to explain or discuss.
Anyway I do not want to convince anyone to do anything. I tried to explain what is meant, so decide yourself.
However I believe you are the one making up if and when, and you are not even trying to read my post.
I said there are circumstances, where one should use dropable weights and where one does not need it - on contrast tonwhat you are trying to subordinate(? Highlighted bold in your quote) Its calculable with assumptions. Now if you weigh risks against each other your own calculation may lead you to use more often dropable weights, but if I just by physics and math do not need it up to very unrealistic scenarios I get rid of thos failure point.
Well I have personally not heard drom someone dropping weights for emergency. However I know of two cases ended up in tje chamber, when they lost weight at depth. And noticed several times that divers lost their weight at entrance or exit...
boqurant
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Is that GUE Rescue Primer? (Rescue Primer | GUE) I might take GUE Fundies (Rec version) at some point, though it's difficult to find open-water tuition of it locally.
I'm just doing plain old PADI Rescue. Seems mainly okay and tbh I can't imagine anyone does things completely by the (occasionally questionable) book in reality anyway. The godfather Edd Sorensen is on record explaining how he goes into rescue / recoveries without a specific plan
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