Why do we hate the Air2?

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I told some people last weekend they were welcome to take my primary but it was a doublehose and would only extend about 1 foot - much better to use the octo clipped to my horsecollar.
 
are you arguing that people shouldn't discuss gas sharing before diving?

I have a similar discussion with new buddies, if they need gas, they are to take my primary and only my primary. Going for my backup which is bungeed around my neck will be a waste of time.

No. I am wondering why someone would refuse to donate his primary or any other source of gas for an OOA diver.

I agree that a bungeed alternate on a short hose would be difficult to access. But I have also tried that and it will get the OOA diver gas. Mine are rigged to slip out of the bungee making them a bit more accessable. I am not going to deny an OOA diver any gas source I have. If they choose other than my primary, we can sort that out after the diver has some gas to breath.
 
No. I am wondering why someone would refuse to donate his primary or any other source of gas for an OOA diver.

I agree that a bungeed alternate on a short hose would be difficult to access. But I have also tried that and it will get the OOA diver gas. Mine are rigged to slip out of the bungee making them a bit more accessable. I am not going to deny an OOA diver any gas source I have. If they choose other than my primary, we can sort that out after the diver has some gas to breath.

Oh, I see where I misunderstood. The post you quoted was simply about a pre-dive air sharing discussion between buddies (which I think is good). I forgot about the earlier discussion of people having to eat their mask if they go for the primary :)
 
My secondary is not on a necklace. It is on a three foot hose that is clipped to the front of my BC and plainly marked. Coming out of my Conshelf 14 first stage, it is routed to my left and is thus in the perfect orientation to be donated. That is, with the mouthpiece pointing away from me and toward the recipient. I make it very plain during predive discussion that that is the reg the OOA diver is to go for. Further, I tend to keep a close eye on my dive buddies and I should notice if they are starting to have trouble.

I, too, often dive with a double hose reg, so my dive buddies need to be in the habit of reaching for my secondary anyway.

PS
I hope you guys realize I've been yanking your chain;) Yes, I prefer that the OOA diver not grab for my primary, but I certainly wouldn't let him drown. He can eat his mask once we surface!
 
My secondary is not on a necklace. It is on a three foot hose that is clipped to the front of my BC and plainly marked. Coming out of my Conshelf 14 first stage, it is routed to my left and is thus in the perfect orientation to be donated. That is, with the mouthpiece pointing away from me and toward the recipient. I make it very plain during predive discussion that that is the reg the OOA diver is to go for. Further, I tend to keep a close eye on my dive buddies and I should notice if they are starting to have trouble.

I, too, often dive with a double hose reg, so my dive buddies need to be in the habit of reaching for my secondary anyway.

PS
I hope you guys realize I've been yanking your chain;) Yes, I prefer that the OOA diver not grab for my primary, but I certainly wouldn't let him drown. He can eat his mask once we surface!

yes, I was aware that you were kidding. I have often thought that the octo should be oriented the opposite way. If you need to breathe from it yourself, it would pretty easy to route the hose around the back of your head to get it in the correct orientation, and if you need to donate, it's ready to do. Not sure why this isn't standard practice.
 
I have often thought that the octo should be oriented the opposite way. If you need to breathe from it yourself, it would pretty easy to route the hose around the back of your head to get it in the correct orientation, and if you need to donate, it's ready to do. Not sure why this isn't standard practice.

that is some very interesting food for thought...... I'd like to see other's thoughts on this (maybe start another thread)...

---------- Post added January 30th, 2013 at 10:24 AM ----------

I broke this off to a new thread....

http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/ad...5347-octo-orientation-perhaps-twist-norm.html
 

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