Question Which scooter? (used genesis vs seacraft go)

[NLoma001]

Starting to look at buying a dpv...Considering range, noise etc I am leaning towards seacraft go however saw someone had listed a used dive logic 600 used for about thr same price (listing was a bit confusing as it had a warpcore upgrade and also says genesis 2.0 on thr tail. Anyone have insight on if this might actually be a genesis 2.1 or how thr 3 1 2.1 700 differ? Also what would you choose...Seacraft go? Used genesis?

Usecase: South Florida rec dives mostly

 

[mr_v]

Try a few and see what you like. We are so focused on specs here, and experience is more than just the specs. For example, how fast do you actually want to go before comfort becomes an issue? Thrust is great when you have to squeeze through a high-flow restriction on power, but at some point going full speed becomes uncomfortable, and other points, like ergonomics become more important.

 

[Jollymon32]

I am a fat guy - 6’0 240 pounds. I can categorically state that the Go is my go to scooter for recreational boat dives and it has more than enough thrust and range for this use case without the weight and size of the Genesis.

And it would be completely suitable for long range beach dives with other non-Genesis touting friends.

However, if your friends are running Genesis scooters, you will want a Genesis.

Here is a picture of both together:

 

[flymolo]

the genesis is great for diving off boats. the 3.1 is like 30 pounds and compact so its pretty easy to hop off a boat with

 

[stuartv]

That's like asking Lamborghini to make a 4 cylinder compact.

Or asking Lambo to make an Ariel Atom...

Smaller, lighter, and cheap is one thing.

Smaller, lighter, and high performance is something else...

Time marches on. What was once the King of Smaller, Lighter, Thrustier will inevitably become the middle of the pack at some point.

I love the runtime my Genesis offers. But, I rarely NEED that much runtime. Like @Jollymon32, for just about all boat dives, I would choose a smaller, lighter option at 2/3 of the max thrust, if I had that option.

A scooter the size and weight of the Go!, but with some version of a Warp Core and the other great Genesis traits would be my top choice for just about any boat dive I do.

As I have already said, I have a Genesis and yet I am still strongly considering to sell my BlackTip and buy a Go! to have as an alternative to my G. And, realistically, if I do, it is likely that I would use it a lot more than my Genesis.

 

[stuartv]

Try a few and see what you like. We are so focused on specs here, and experience is more than just the specs. For example, how fast do you actually want to go before comfort becomes an issue? Thrust is great when you have to squeeze through a high-flow restriction on power, but at some point going full speed becomes uncomfortable, and other points, like ergonomics become more important.

How fast do you actually want to go?

How about how fast do you want to be ABLE to go? It might not be comfortable, but do you want to be ABLE to go upstream in a situation where you accidentally got blown off the wreck by a ripping current and you really NEED to be able to drive against it and actually make progress back to where you need to be?

Your post sounds like an exercise in sophistry by someone trying to justify their choice of a weaker scooter.

It's a tool. You won't always need a stronger tool. But, are you choosing your tools based on being able to handle the average task, or the occasional extreme task?

I ended up off the Jodrey, in the current in the Saint Lawrence River once, with my BlackTip. It was not comfortable, but I was DANG sure wishing I had a stronger, more reliable scooter when that happened.

I was both lucky and happy that when it did eventually spontaneously shut off, I had gotten back to the side of the island where I could quickly get to and grab a rock, so I didn't get blown away and end up miles downstream, in the shipping channel.

That experience is a big part of the reason I have a Genesis now.

 

[mr_v]

BlackTip is a toy. I don't know how people dive it outside lakes, quarries.

I have no issues with loving my SUEX. It has plenty of power and support in Cave Country.