I picked up a new in the box Genesis 2.2 yesterday. Well, a buddy that is local to where the scooter is picked it up for me. I've only seen pictures, so far. It might be as much as a month until I meet him to actually have it in hand.
It sat forgotten in a warehouse for 3 years, so it's new, but I talked to @Jon Nellis who confirmed that I should assume the small drain from the BMS will have killed the batteries by now. I can replace them all for $750 and it will still have been a really good deal for me (price-wise).
I bought the 2.2 because I wanted a Genesis and it was too good a price to pass up. But, what I *really* want is a 3.1. Or even a 2.1. I really don't have any need for the additional run time that the 2.2 gives. At least, not in the next probably 2 or 3 years. Maybe in a few years, my cave diving will progress to the point of doing Cave DPV and then doing long enough dives to actually need more run time than what a 2.1 or 3.1 gives. But, honestly, I'm skeptical I will ever be hardcore enough in cave diving to need more than what a 2.1 gives.
In the meantime, I would really rather have the shorter size and lighter weight of a 2.1/3.1.
Options I'm considering:
- buy all new batteries and run it as a 2.2. Use my BlackTip for dives where I really want the smaller/lighter scooter.
- buy a 2.1 tube and half the number of batteries and convert it to a 2.1. Probably keep the 2.2 parts for the "someday" when I need a "bigger" scooter.
- parley the 2.2 into a 3.1 somehow, via a trade or selling it and buying a 3.1. Probably having to first put new batteries in the 2.2 so it can be demonstrated to be in good working order.
Questions I have:
- what would it cost for batteries, a tube, etc., for converting the 2.2 into a 2.1? The Logic website says it just takes having the other tube. But, after reading the Warp Core manual, I think it also requires a different Warp Core end plate and a different wiring harness.
- what happens with the batteries if I use it as a 2.1 for a while (say, a year) and then want to convert it back to a 2.2? There are 72 cells in a 2.1 and 144 in a 2.2. If I convert it to a 2.2, can I just buy 72 new batteries and then use them alongside the 72 that are already in there? Or do I have to buy 144 batteries, so they are all from the same production run and have the same "life"? And then junk the original, perfectly good 72 that I was using?
- which begs the question, if a cell goes bad in the Warp Core, the manual and website make it sound like I can use the Android app to identify the bad cell and just replace the one bad one. But, then it also talks about needing to use cells all from the same production run. So, what does that really mean? If one cell goes bad after a year, can I just replace it with one new cell (i.e. from a totally different production run)? Or when one cell goes bad, do I have to replace them all?
- maybe the better question to ask is, what is the problem, from a practical point of view, with mixing used and new cells in a Warp Core?
Any info, insights, or suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
It sat forgotten in a warehouse for 3 years, so it's new, but I talked to @Jon Nellis who confirmed that I should assume the small drain from the BMS will have killed the batteries by now. I can replace them all for $750 and it will still have been a really good deal for me (price-wise).
I bought the 2.2 because I wanted a Genesis and it was too good a price to pass up. But, what I *really* want is a 3.1. Or even a 2.1. I really don't have any need for the additional run time that the 2.2 gives. At least, not in the next probably 2 or 3 years. Maybe in a few years, my cave diving will progress to the point of doing Cave DPV and then doing long enough dives to actually need more run time than what a 2.1 or 3.1 gives. But, honestly, I'm skeptical I will ever be hardcore enough in cave diving to need more than what a 2.1 gives.
In the meantime, I would really rather have the shorter size and lighter weight of a 2.1/3.1.
Options I'm considering:
- buy all new batteries and run it as a 2.2. Use my BlackTip for dives where I really want the smaller/lighter scooter.
- buy a 2.1 tube and half the number of batteries and convert it to a 2.1. Probably keep the 2.2 parts for the "someday" when I need a "bigger" scooter.
- parley the 2.2 into a 3.1 somehow, via a trade or selling it and buying a 3.1. Probably having to first put new batteries in the 2.2 so it can be demonstrated to be in good working order.
Questions I have:
- what would it cost for batteries, a tube, etc., for converting the 2.2 into a 2.1? The Logic website says it just takes having the other tube. But, after reading the Warp Core manual, I think it also requires a different Warp Core end plate and a different wiring harness.
- what happens with the batteries if I use it as a 2.1 for a while (say, a year) and then want to convert it back to a 2.2? There are 72 cells in a 2.1 and 144 in a 2.2. If I convert it to a 2.2, can I just buy 72 new batteries and then use them alongside the 72 that are already in there? Or do I have to buy 144 batteries, so they are all from the same production run and have the same "life"? And then junk the original, perfectly good 72 that I was using?
- which begs the question, if a cell goes bad in the Warp Core, the manual and website make it sound like I can use the Android app to identify the bad cell and just replace the one bad one. But, then it also talks about needing to use cells all from the same production run. So, what does that really mean? If one cell goes bad after a year, can I just replace it with one new cell (i.e. from a totally different production run)? Or when one cell goes bad, do I have to replace them all?
- maybe the better question to ask is, what is the problem, from a practical point of view, with mixing used and new cells in a Warp Core?
Any info, insights, or suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
