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What is your LDS and WHY? (Phoenix Area)

Discussion in 'Southwestern Region' started by shark.byte.usa, Nov 15, 2006.

Dive shops

  1. All Wet Scuba

    4 vote(s)
    4.7%
  2. AquaBlue Sports

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  3. El Mar Diving Center

    15 vote(s)
    17.4%
  4. Inland Water Divers

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. NDepth Scuba

    2 vote(s)
    2.3%
  6. Ocean Planet Scuba

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  7. Oasis Divers

    2 vote(s)
    2.3%
  8. Paradise Scuba

    3 vote(s)
    3.5%
  9. Saguaro Diving & Sports

    9 vote(s)
    10.5%
  10. Scuba Sciences

    32 vote(s)
    37.2%
  11. Scuba Specialties

    17 vote(s)
    19.8%
  12. Sports Chalet

    8 vote(s)
    9.3%
  1. diversteve

    diversteve always tired Rest in Peace ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location:
    26,281
    5,854
    113
    I'm aware of the posting but at the time I posted my reply, there was only one. And although it is suspicious, I have no way to verify the dfh id is a sock puppet.

    later edit: snip...
     
  2. scubajcf

    scubajcf Dive Travel Professional

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: Arizona
    1,092
    12
    38
    Hi Guys, Perhaps this will help people. This is the standard I try to use when posting on Scubaboard.

    I think Rob follows (pretty much) the same procedure. As most know, I was an instructor at Scuba Specialties for several years. Most people on the board knew that. In February, I became a partner in Oasis (Stephen Ash helped let everyone know by creating the thread). In March, I became a partner in Downtown Scuba.

    I have actively used the marketplace and calendar to promote my classes and trips at both shops. While posting in the main forum, I've always tried to remain neutral. In fact there are many posts where I have pointed someone to El Mar, All Wet, or other shops (I followed Stephen Ash's posts and emulated him when I first joined).

    This is a community for sharing information and facilitating the growth of our sport. If you want to advertise, use the marketplace. That's what is there for. In the cases where my shop has been able to help, I have tried to throw out other options and my shop. In those cases, I usually put a small line at the bottom of my posting with the words "Full Disclosure, I work for ..."

    I hope this helps ...

    John Flanders


    jcf

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  3. AzAtty

    AzAtty Instructor, Scuba

    894
    6
    18
    Yes, we do.
     
  4. boatflyer

    boatflyer Angel Fish

    # of Dives: 25 - 49
    Location:
    19
    0
    0

    boatflyer is the only user name that i have at this time i do not know hoo diverfromehell is
     
  5. divebri

    divebri Barracuda

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Phoenix, AZ
    200
    1
    18
    perhaps if all the posse came out and told us all how many sock puppets they had, and came clean, we could begin a reconciliation. But, I think at this point it's a game to them, and I'm calling BS on this grammar thing. I think they're playing a little game, especially if there's THREE of them with this problem (boatflyer, diverfromhell, and scubadiver1302001). How many accounts DID you have, boatflyer?
    Office Manager? Divecons? GM? anyone else I failed to mention?
     
  6. divelizard

    divelizard Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Phoenix, AZ
    62
    0
    0
    I am taking offense to being lumped in with the group. I've been trying not to get in on this post, but I now feel the need to defend those of us that are not playing the shell game. There are quite a few of us that are divecons, inst., and such. So don't blame us all.

    As far as the problem itself, I didn't make the bed so I'm not sleeping in it.
     
  7. divebri

    divebri Barracuda

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Phoenix, AZ
    200
    1
    18
    and my post only related to anyone who did post, to come clean about any underhanded things they may have done.

    If you really feel SS is correct in their stance, fine. Post as such, and give us full disclosure that you work there. That's fair, and we can certainly agree to disagree.
    But the nonsense that I now feel is a deliberate attempt at disrupting the intent of this board that has come exclusively from that "side" is ridiculous, and the GM apparently asked for a big internet hug. For what? So he can pull some more money out of someone's pockets?
    And I'm not putting you in the bed, since you didn't make it. I don't even expect you to state your opinion any more than that. I'm appreciative that you would post here, clearly, and give us a perspective. Steven Ash alluded to a lot of good instructors over there, and there are always good people in any organization. I can tell you're one of the good ones just by refusing to participate in this ruse.
    My anger over their deception is only aimed towards the culprits, and the organization that encourages it. Not the people who didn't engage. Does their actions change your mind about working with any of them?
    I can't tell the players without a scorecard around here. So, please accept my apology that I meant not to lump the "members" who didn't participate in with the "members" who did.
     
  8. divelizard

    divelizard Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Phoenix, AZ
    62
    0
    0
    No apology needed. This is the SB after all. I'm playing Swiss on right or wrong. The handling could have been better in my humble opinion.

    As far as them not responding right now, maybe some timeouts were handed down after the review was done. Just a thought.
     
  9. diversteve

    diversteve always tired Rest in Peace ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location:
    26,281
    5,854
    113
    Ok, I can accept that....
     
  10. Thalassamania

    Thalassamania Diving Polymath ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: On a large pile of smokin' A'a, the most isolated
    22,171
    2,770
    113
    Then someone needs to come clean and I expect everyone will agree to drop it and let them start over. Barring that, SS is the prime feature of my two most active subscribed threads and these threads continue to climb in their Google position for a search of the dive shops name. It's their funeral.
     

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