Virginian diver dead at 190 feet - Roaring River State Park, Missouri

[Vicko]

It has no backups systems, diver is in full control of the unit. No dewatering, no backup o2 controller, lungs positioning and general loop design.
Great for advanced users, not so much for people who don't have the hundreds of hours necessary to develop the muscle memory.

 

[Marie13]

It has no backups systems, diver is in full control of the unit. No dewatering, no backup o2 controller, lungs positioning and general loop design.
Great for advanced users, not so much for people who don't have the hundreds of hours necessary to develop the muscle memory.

Not a fan of mCCR?

 

[Vicko]

Not a fan of mCCR?

Just not the kiss ones, and mostly because they are designed for dives that 99% of their users will never do.

 

[formernuke]

He (and Woody) have no business doing these types of dives or on that project

Why not? I don't know them or there experience level, but I was under the impression that especially Woody does have the certs and experience for these dives.

 

[Marie13]

Just not the kiss ones, and mostly because they are designed for dives that 99% of their users will never do.

That’s a really weird reason to dislike certain CCR models. You could say the same thing about Shearwater computers as most divers are probably recreational divers not using the tech and CCR modes.

 

[Vicko]

Main difference that a perdix set in rec mode works perfectly as a rec computer (I still never recomend it to people who won't use the tec features but that's beside the point)
Kiss on the other hand is made for expedition type dives and has a lot of compromises to safety and ease of use because it's targeted dives are done by people who don't need the added safety factors or the QOL bells and whistles.
In this thread there has been 2 cases reported of the wrong gas being plugged in by divers who only have a year or two of experience on the unit, imagine if they had a unit that did not add that task to the already huge list of stuff you have to take care of on a mCCR that breaths fine only if you are in good trim.

 

[Marie13]

Gus had the correct gas but plugged in the wrong one. We don’t know the specifics yet of what happened with Eric.

 

[Robert H. Diver]

Main difference that a perdix set in rec mode works perfectly as a rec computer (I still never recomend it to people who won't use the tec features but that's beside the point)
Kiss on the other hand is made for expedition type dives and has a lot of compromises to safety and ease of use because it's targeted dives are done by people who don't need the added safety factors or the QOL bells and whistles.
In this thread there has been 2 cases reported of the wrong gas being plugged in by divers who only have a year or two of experience on the unit, imagine if they had a unit that did not add that task to the already huge list of stuff you have to take care of on a mCCR that breaths fine only if you are in good trim.

So you dislike a certain unit because of possible human error? (We don’t know what happened yet.)

 

[grantctobin]

Gus had the correct gas but plugged in the wrong one.

Gus plugged in a gas that shouldn’t have even been in the cave, that shouldn’t been where his bailout is, that may or may not have had a necklace and be the bailout reg wrapped around his neck…

And! He didn’t NOTOX or team check or whatever else each agency wants to call it when he plugged it in…

 

[lostsheep]

First and foremost , condolences to the team, friends, and family.

I’m very curious to know more about the possibility of mis matched dil tanks.

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