To the OW divers I "met" at Jackson Blue last weekend

[Frosty]

... if Jax shows up dressed like her avatar those boys will follow her anywhere ... might need bigger tanks to make it outta the cave, though ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Refer to snorkle hookup perhaps. ??

 

[denisegg]

Heavy breathers?

 

[mrmagoo560]

I have been going into caves around Carlsbad Caverns for 20 years and been a diver for over 10 years but would NEVER consider entering a cave while diving! I have been right at the entrance and just peered inside,but always knew the danger involved in something like that.It is a shame some people just don't think things through.

 

[ScubaSam]

I have been going into caves around Carlsbad Caverns for 20 years and been a diver for over 10 years but would NEVER consider entering a cave while diving! I have been right at the entrance and just peered inside,but always knew the danger involved in something like that.It is a shame some people just don't think things through.

Maybe if more of the Darwin candidates had your sense they'd be alive today.

 

[cwdivers]

started caving in 1990 and I carry the Wakala award for over 500 safe cave dives and then some. Amazing that it can take 1 cave dive for an open water diver to lose their life and Ive enjoyed so many due to the training I chose to get?

May you always be the Jack Ass that may have saved a life. Im just too sorry to hear that you felt that their heads may have been to thick to get through to. let one of them not come out of a cave and rest will have gotten it then!

 

[MorneScuba]

To Cave Diver
I've done a few cave dives and agree with you 100 % GO GET THE TRAINING before attempting to do it. Will they jump out of a plane without first getting training in how to use the parachute? Although they will not admit it you've saved their lives. Great job and well done

 

[ItsBruce]

The good news is that so far, they have not shown up on Accidents & Incidents!!! Let's hope it stays that way.

 

[gaspra13]

Yes, I AM a jackass.

And it's too bad I ruined your fun by chasing you down and making you turn around, then lecturing you on surface. Based on your responses to me, I'm not sure you really appreciated my intervention, but I don't really care. I got the impression you'd make the dive again, given the chance.

Yeah, I know you told me I don't have to worry about you ever doing that dive again and that it kinda freaked you out. But I didn't detect any real fear in you and I got the impression you were saying what I wanted to hear just to shut me up. I sincerely hope I was mistaken about this.

If you want to explore caves, get the proper training and equipment. While you may have thought you had things under control, let me share what *I* saw when I caught up with you in the cave.

Your trim and buoyancy was poor. You were swimming at a 45* angle and your fins were stirring up the bottom with every kick. Luckily JB isn't a place that silts easily or that could have been a real problem. You were also finning with your hands to stay in place.

At least one of you had an octo dragging behind you. I saw it snag several times on rocks and a couple of the lines. Do you realize that if something happened to your reg in that environment you wouldn't know where to find your octo? Or that it was likely full of sand and rocks and crud? Or that you were increasing the chances that something might cause it to freeflow and you'd lose all your gas in that single AL80 you were wearing? Or that it getting caught on someone else's safety line could cause the line to break, putting them in a potentially bad spot while you swam away oblivious?

Neither of the two of you in the cave had any sort of redundant air supply, not even a pony. And you'd already swam across the pond from the boat dock before entering the cave and appeared to be discussing following someone's jump line when I caught up with you. Do you have any clue how much gas it would have taken you to exit if I didn't turn you around at that point?

Do you know what you'd have done if you'd gone further and one of your lights failed?

Your buddy that stopped at the entrance and refused to go in was the only one that exhibited any common sense. I'm not sure if he was just freaked out by the idea, or too cold since he was wearing only board shorts and no exposure suit, but I'm glad he listened to that little voice regardless.

So if you want to explore caves, GO GET SOME TRAINING!!!

If you continue diving caves with rudimentary skills, improper equipment and no training, one of these days your luck is gonna run out and you're gonna be just another notch on the grim reaper's scythe.

If you see me doing something as stupid as cave diving without the knowledge, or any other stupid stunt, fell free to take my dive card and slap the crap out of me, because you probably just saved my life!!!!

 

[gaspra13]

I only have a few dives under my belt, but I know not to exceed my limitations! I hope if you see me doing anything as stupid as trying to cave dive or any other stupid crap, take my dive card and slap the crap out of me, you may save my life!

 

[BCStork]

I just want to say "kudos" to you Cave Diver, you did what you thought right and I fully agree with your actions. True you may have only delayed the inevitable but maybe just maybe your talk sunk in.

It is too often that I have seen unequip and untrained divers doing dives beyond their training, and only through the intervention of others are they still diving today.

Anytime your in the Pacific North West and you need a dive partner, I would be honored to dive with you.

BCStork