"The Wetter The Better" save lionfish from death

[Missdirected]

CDR (ret) Murchison:
Based on your posts (SB as well as divematrix.com, tampadiving.com, scubamatrix.com, etc.) you've been diving awhile & contribute good, useful content. I learned quite a bit from your SB 'SAC rate' posts - thx.

You have the ability to edit SB posts, but neither your profile nor status list you as Mod, SB team, site support, etc., so (respectfully) how is this possible? Also, the reason listed for editing my post is 'TOS compliance' but after searching SB for 'TOS compliance,' 'TOS,' 'Terms of Service,' 'Compliance,' and other similar terms there were no results. The top-level TOS page (http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/matrix/tos.php) has links to the respective sub-forums, not rules & regs; ergo I can't re-read the TOS that you may or may not be referencing. However - from memory - non-compliance can include a general pattern of bad behavior, hijacking a thread, vulgarity, etc - not well-written sarcasm. You changed the meaning of my post and I can't find the regs that justify this. With all due respect, I'd like an explanation.

Cleary, he is incognito.

Seriously though, for a list of mods, advisors, etc., go to the main forums page, towards the bottom you will find a list, click on it. Mods are not required to paint it on their foreheads that they are in fact moderators. It is up to you to look up who is and who isn't a moderator, if you choose to. Anyway, here is the list (you'll find Rick under Senior Moderator I do believe): http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/showgroups.php

 

[alohagal]

And let's not forget these are tasty critters: http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/florida-conch-divers/287885-lionfish-recipes.html

I am ready to try it out. Next time you spear one of those critters, maybe you can fly him out to Colorado. (I'll pay) But, could you clean him first?

Thanks,
Mary

 

[Docc]

I'm going tropical next week. I'll stuff some of those buggers in my wetsuit pockets and bring'em back and we can grill'em.

 

[ONESPEED]

I am ready to try it out. Next time you spear one of those critters, maybe you can fly him out to Colorado. (I'll pay) But, could you clean him first?

Thanks,
Mary

No problem, I'll be happy to send you some lionfish fillets.

 

[alohagal]

I'm going tropical next week. I'll stuff some of those buggers in my wetsuit pockets and bring'em back and we can grill'em.

Darn Docc,

I will just miss you in Cozumel. Heading out this Saturday thru 4 July 09.
I guess I could spear my own Lionfish in Cozumel...since they are being spotted. But...looks like I will have to use chopsticks. Ouch!

 

[Docc]

Darn Docc,

I will just miss you in Cozumel. Heading out this Saturday thru 4 July 09.
I guess I could spear my own Lionfish in Cozumel...since they are being spotted. But...looks like I will have to use chopsticks. Ouch!

You should have told me.......I'm headed to Sint Maarten and Saba. I'm hitting Coz in July after my youngest daughter is certified. Wanna go to Bonaire in November?

 

[Rick Murchison]

Who hacked your account? seems you posted the change?!?!

Note the "change" was removed from the quote... it's the hobbling of Onespeed's abilities that I can't claim...
Rick

 

[scuba.dude]

I am the one who started this tread. Maybe I let my emotions interfere with properly posting what had happened. Reading all of the directions this post has taken I should have made two post. I should have made one post about lionfish completely leaving out the part about the Divemasters actions. I have hundreds of hours of bottom time in Florida. I had never seen one here before. I have seen first hand the destruction they will do to reef when they move in. My love for the ocean is a close second to my love for my family. When I saw that lionfish, I got that sick feeling inside. The same as if I had just found out that a loved one had cancer. I will admit I was unprepared to deal with a lionfish that day. I know the consequences of being stung by a lionfish. I was willing to go to the hospital and suffer threw the pain if that is what it would take to protect our reefs. I will in the future be ready for them. I now have a custom made 3' pole spear that folds down to 12". I will not be diving without it. I am glad this post was made a lot of people aware of lionfish and hopefully more informed about them.

I should have then made a second post about THE FEMALE DIVEMASTER FROM THE WETTER THE BETTER DIVE CHARTER. Her actions were inappropriate at best, I feel dangerous and reckless would be a better description. She was not trying to protect us from being stung. She was protecting the lionfish. By the time we had finished our dive and got back on to our boat they had already called over the radio from their boat saying that "there were going to be some pissed off dives when they come up". I could have easily over powered her or even cut her high pressure line but just because she was in the wrong was not a reason for me to fall to her level. Had I posted her actions without bring the lionfish in to it, the two subjects would not have diluted out each other. As a business owner I know I can not control the actions of my employs all the time, but if one of my employs was to do something questionable I would like to know. I could then make the decision to tell them good job keep it up or you're fired. There were about 5 witnesses. Certainly there is more than one version of this story. I would love to find out if this person was acting completely against the wishes of the captain or if this is what is expected of their crew.

As for Scuba.Dude, what can I say? I have always felt that if you can't win an argument with fact and reason the only thing you have left is name calling. Reading the "facts" that were included with your post you should stick with name calling. Here is some help, I am fat, I am getting gray hair, I am ugly, and I have been called an a@@hole before. Try sticking with this because you are off on your lionfish facts.

In closing I have two thoughts. First is a saying I heard years ago. It goes "It is better to be thought a fool that to open your mouth and relieve all doubt". Second don't say anything you don't want people to know you said. I hate screen names. My name is Robert Palmer and I live in Clermont, FL. I stand by what I have said. I may not have typed it out clearly but most people understood it. If I could I would close this tread now. Once it devolves to name calling there will not be anything more useful to come out of it.

Good sir:

Agreed re: 'name calling,' which is not what I engaged in. I neither stated nor suggested fat or graying (which are objective, btw) or ugly (which would just be cruel) - and I hasten to point out I have not used vulgarity. My word choice was intentional; in fact if you recall the two descriptors that were edited out, they reflect lack of judgement and ability (Dictionary.com or PM me for direct links). While this is my opinion, this is hardly equivalent to 'poopy-face' or whatever. As you've acknowledged, the OP was either ill-conceived or simply reckless. Brother, you're passionate & that's commendable, but when you throw the 1st volley at someone & after 6 pages of less-than-agreement don't issue a retraction or clarification, c'mon ... that's just irresponsible.

I don't know where to begin re: suggesting you will sabotage a fellow diver's life support equipment ...

The 'remain silent' quote is a favorite of mine as well. I respect your opinion & disagree. I also like "You must occasionally suffer fools; but never argue with them" which accounts for a demonstrated lack of response to some other posters.

Re: screenames - the internet is a mighty big, lawless place & screenames protect the innocent. For example, it took me less than 5mins to learn about your business, your family members, your financial & legal history, and many other things I would consider private info if I were you. These were intentionally omitted because it would be unconscionable to include them in this dialogue. Perhaps your assumption about my lack of detente is unfounded?

BTW - touche re: your use of devolve. This isn't sarcasm, Robert; a strong mind is required to reference archaic denotations.

- Mike a.k.a. scuba.dude (again, that's Mike)

 

[scuba.dude]

fisheyeview, deepstops - thanks for the info. Would have thought the tos would be on the tos page oppose to the faq page ... if there is other 'ScubaBoard logic' you know of that might be helpful, please post freely.

-s.d

 

[scuba.dude]

missdirected - good tip. thx for the link to Mods page; a search didn't yield hits??? Is there a page that explains things like this, the logic behind TOS info on the FAQ page, etc?

thx,
s.d