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If being in a "persistant vegetative state" is punishable by death, most of the members of Congress and many who post on this forum are in a heap of trouble.
The Terri Schiavo Case
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benncool:
after thinking about it for a second... it would be more better to give Terri the injection because it's "more" humane. I am sure someone will chime in to tell me how bad it really is, but for the sake of discussion I understand your point.
I don't know much about law other than it's pretty confusing. For instance, it's legal for a woman to kill a fetus within her because it isn't a person? yet if some one else kills it they can be convicted of murder? Is it a person or not and is it or isn't it ok to to kill it? Based on the first premis I suppose the best you should be able to do would be to call it theft?
When do we feed people? when they can't use their own hands to put the food in their mout? When they can't use their own mouth to ask for it? When they are unable to chew and swallow? When they are unable to pay for the food?
How do we decide whether or a not a persons life is worth living to them? I wonder if some one like Bill Gates would think my near pennyless, soon to be unemployed life is worth living. If a person can't tell us what's on their mind do we assume the answer would be nothing? or everything?
I'm pretty sure that I no longer know what our society or our laws define as marriage. I do know that my comitment to my wife and my obligation to honor it isn't dependant on her ability to fulfil any of my needs. I remember saying something like "til death do us part" and not "until you're not doing what I'd like you to do".
On the other hand I think we could find both legal and scriptural grounds for devorce in the case of adultary. So...I think this lady should have her own representation and the first thing her lawyer should do on her behalf is to sue for devorce on the grounds of adultery hence relieving her so-called husband of any responsibility or decision making authority. Jimminy cricket! what if she did wake up tomarrow morning and jump out of bed ready to go home...to her husband? Sorry...that he aint. There's too many unanswered questions and allegations...the broken bones, denied treatment from the start ect. We don't know who's intentions are where but one side is trying to kll her and the other is trying to keep her alive and get her the treatment that some doctors say could help her.
When do we feed people? when they can't use their own hands to put the food in their mout? When they can't use their own mouth to ask for it? When they are unable to chew and swallow? When they are unable to pay for the food?
How do we decide whether or a not a persons life is worth living to them? I wonder if some one like Bill Gates would think my near pennyless, soon to be unemployed life is worth living. If a person can't tell us what's on their mind do we assume the answer would be nothing? or everything?
I'm pretty sure that I no longer know what our society or our laws define as marriage. I do know that my comitment to my wife and my obligation to honor it isn't dependant on her ability to fulfil any of my needs. I remember saying something like "til death do us part" and not "until you're not doing what I'd like you to do".
On the other hand I think we could find both legal and scriptural grounds for devorce in the case of adultary. So...I think this lady should have her own representation and the first thing her lawyer should do on her behalf is to sue for devorce on the grounds of adultery hence relieving her so-called husband of any responsibility or decision making authority. Jimminy cricket! what if she did wake up tomarrow morning and jump out of bed ready to go home...to her husband? Sorry...that he aint. There's too many unanswered questions and allegations...the broken bones, denied treatment from the start ect. We don't know who's intentions are where but one side is trying to kll her and the other is trying to keep her alive and get her the treatment that some doctors say could help her.
CathyI8205:
Does your living will say anything about what roll your husbands live-in girl freind or the children they have together would have in your business?
Kennedydive:
I've had animals all my life and kids for almost 20 years. I don't believe there is any way to even come close to comparing the bond to a child to that of a pet.
H2Andy
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maybe the issue is, when a person can't make decisions for herself, who will?
that is to say, a whole nation can't chime in on whether it's right or wrong.
that's not up to *us* to decide. that's up to Terri's legal guardian and
her doctors.
several judges have said this. this is the issue:
who decides when you can't decide for yourself and didn't leave a living will.
who would YOU like to decide? your legal guardian and your doctors? some
judges? Congress? the President of the US?
i can tell you who *I* would want to decide.
maybe the issue is, when a person can't make decisions for herself, who will?
that is to say, a whole nation can't chime in on whether it's right or wrong.
that's not up to *us* to decide. that's up to Terri's legal guardian and
her doctors.
several judges have said this. this is the issue:
who decides when you can't decide for yourself and didn't leave a living will.
who would YOU like to decide? your legal guardian and your doctors? some
judges? Congress? the President of the US?
i can tell you who *I* would want to decide.
H2Andy:
The judges are out, especially the supreme court, because they too often vote along party lines and I think the democrates would surely kill me. LOL
I don't have a guardian right now but if I need one who appoints them? The judges? I'm doomed. I think we need another choice.
I wouldn't care who does. If my cerebral cortex were totally destroyed, I wouldn't care about much would I 
Hmmm
I'll try to make it short. Today Terri - because as Baltimoron said - she is a plant (which BTW is not true plants do have feelings so how do you know she doesn't?). Then let's take one step more - kids with the Down syndrom. After all they never live longer than 20 years or so....
So let's take one more step forward - Jews, Gypsies...and - we are back at the mid XXth century. Who is to decide why this life can be taken and the other can't? And what guarantees we all have (taking into the consideration the history in fact there are no guarantees) that this will not go as far as my black scenario?
So forgeting for a moment about religion - these are my main reasons why I'm against. May go much too far. We have seen this hapenning in my part of the world.
Mania
I'll try to make it short. Today Terri - because as Baltimoron said - she is a plant (which BTW is not true plants do have feelings so how do you know she doesn't?). Then let's take one step more - kids with the Down syndrom. After all they never live longer than 20 years or so....
So let's take one more step forward - Jews, Gypsies...and - we are back at the mid XXth century. Who is to decide why this life can be taken and the other can't? And what guarantees we all have (taking into the consideration the history in fact there are no guarantees) that this will not go as far as my black scenario?
So forgeting for a moment about religion - these are my main reasons why I'm against. May go much too far. We have seen this hapenning in my part of the world.
Mania
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