The Terri Schiavo Case

[dlndavid]

It is also worth stating that Terri's parents would not be assuming the cost of her medical care. My understanding is that Terri is on Medicaid. You and I are paying for her medical care.

So do you have a problem with that? You just stepped off into a deep chasm.

 

[Maya]

So do you have a problem with that? You just stepped off into a deep chasm.

Nope. Don't have a problem with it. Just responding to someone saying that Terri's parents would be taking over her medical care costs.

 

[dlndavid]

Nope. Don't have a problem with it. Just responding to someone saying that Terri's parents would be taking over her medical care costs.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Green_Manelishi]

It is also worth stating that Terri's parents would not be assuming the cost of her medical care. My understanding is that Terri is on Medicaid. You and I are paying for her medical care.

Your argument is absurd.

If we are going to "off" people based on how much they cost us I can think of entire GROUPS of ner-do-wells that cost much more to care for than Terri.

 

[zboss]

So do you have a problem with that? You just stepped off into a deep chasm.

we put dollar values on life everyday. Just ask your insurance company.

 

[H2Andy]

Maya (and everyone) I read that the Florida Supreme Court declined to overturn
the order in place preventing the state from taking over Terri's care:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm.../20050325/ap_on_re_us/brain_damaged_woman_119

 

[H2Andy]

Your argument is absurd.

If we are going to "off" people based on how much they cost us I can think of entire GROUPS of ner-do-wells that cost much more to care for than Terri.

yeah... well... that's not her argument. in fact, she has no argument.

she's making a statement of fact

you're the one making the argument... and pardon me, it's absurd.

(not you, the argument)

HOWEVER... that is the effect of the law in effect in Texas.
hospitals can petition the state and terminate
life support for patients. guess who's gonna get cut first?

also, if you want heart-wrenching, the first person to get cut
off by a hospital was a baby, and his mother DID NOT want
the life support to end. the state forced her to do it.

btw, that law is in place courtesy of a Texas ex-governor we all know well

the main lobbysts for the law were insurance companies and health care providers.

guess why?

 

[triton94949]

Maya (and everyone) I read that the Florida Supreme Court declined to overturn
the order in place preventing the state from taking over Terri's care:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm.../20050325/ap_on_re_us/brain_damaged_woman_119

This has reached the stage now where it is getting too painful to follow. I hope this is what the unfortunate woman herself wants. It may be. We simply will never know for sure.

 

[dlndavid]

yeah... well... that's not her argument. in fact, she has no argument.

she's making a statement of fact

you're the one making the argument... and pardon me, it's absurd.

(not you, the argument)

HOWEVER... that is the effect of the law in effect in Texas.
hospitals can petition the state and terminate
life support for patients. guess who's gonna get cut first?

also, if you want heart-wrenching, the first person to get cut
off by a hospital was a baby, and his mother DID NOT want
the life support to end. the state forced her to do it.

btw, that law is in place courtesy of a Texas ex-governor we all know well

the main lobbysts for the law were insurance companies and health care providers.

guess why?

Andy,
Was this information, the information you posted earlier? I looked at the website briefly but did not see this information on the law you are talking about in Texas. Do you have a better source for this information, I would like to review it a little more in depth. Thanks

Oh and you must be talking about President Bush.

 

[H2Andy]

this is a quick story on the baby:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/15/lifesupport.baby.ap/

here's a little more depth to the law itself:

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=22&art_id=qw1111645980479B221

and here's a Texas view on it:

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/nation/11218454.htm

dang, you have to sign up for that last link. here's a blurb:

In 1999, the Texas Legislature passed, and then-Gov. Bush signed, the Advance Directives Act, which lets people dictate their end-of-life wishes in instruments such as living wills. For a patient who cannot communicate his or her wishes, the law allows family members, in consultation with physicians, to make life-ending decisions.

The act also allows Texas health care professionals to disconnect patients from life-sustaining systems if a physician, in consultation with a hospital bioethics committee, concludes that the patient's condition is hopeless. The patient's family can try to find another health care facility to care for the patient. But if one cannot be found, the law empowers the hospital to withdraw life support against the wishes of the family.