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I cant think of any instructor that allows kneeling valve drills (or any other drills kneeling for that matter).
 
Steve R:
Absolutely. I live in Ontario, call me when you get here. Nothing proves like water.

Right so your experience of one isolated area youre following through and claiming its valid world wide despite having never seen or witnessed practices elsewhere.

Hardly a solid basis for an argument really.
 
String:
I cant think of any instructor that allows kneeling valve drills (or any other drills kneeling for that matter).
Oh Oh Oh.....I know this one!!!!!!!!!!

(and no...I'm not kidding)
 
Steve R:
I'll bet you've never seen a GUE instructor perform or allow a student to do a kneeling valve drill though, and call it the standard :)
Neither did my NAUI Tech instructor ... or my IANTD instructor. Trust me on that one ... valve drills didn't come easily for me, but neither would pass me till I did it while holding my depth in a hover. I'm fully aware of the Tech 1 standard for that drill, and equally aware that my NAUI and IANTD instructors held me to the same standard ... and I wouldn't have had it any other way.

My issue with your statements are that (a) they're too broad, and (b) I doubt any GUE instructor would approve of the image of GUE that you insist on spreading across the internet.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
NWGratefulDiver:
(b) I doubt any GUE instructor would approve of the image of GUE that you insist on spreading across the internet.
any press, is good press ;)
 
JeffG:
any press, is good press ;)
Having been (and to a degree continuing to be) in a position of explaining to dive students why a GUE class is to their benefit ... I would not agree with that statement.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
NWGratefulDiver:
Having been (and to a degree continuing to be) in a position of explaining to dive students why a GUE class is to their benefit ... I would not agree with that statement.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
Hey...we are not doing a good job agreeing in this thread Bob. LOL

But I guess its because if I explain to someone why GUE would be a good choice, I really don't care if they get it or not.

and if they make up their mind because of some perceived attitude on the internet....well, lets just say that my opinion of their cranial powers would drop quickly.
 
JeffG:
Hey...we are not doing a good job agreeing in this thread Bob. LOL
It happens sometimes ... I'll still respect ya in the morning, though ... ;)

JeffG:
But I guess its because if I explain to someone why GUE would be a good choice, I really don't care if they get it or not.

and if they make up their mind because of some perceived attitude on the internet....well, lets just say that my opinion of their cranial powers would drop quickly.
See, this is where our perceptions differ. As an instructor, my ability to impart knowledge is often based on a student's willingness to listen, and their preconceptions that what I'm saying is worth listening to. Unless I can supply rational reasons for what I say, I don't expect them to want to hear me ... and if I couldn't supply good reasons for what I'm telling them, then it's my own cranial powers that are suspect, not theirs ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
NWGratefulDiver:
Neither did my NAUI Tech instructor ... or my IANTD instructor. Trust me on that one ... valve drills didn't come easily for me, but neither would pass me till I did it while holding my depth in a hover. I'm fully aware of the Tech 1 standard for that drill, and equally aware that my NAUI and IANTD instructors held me to the same standard ... and I wouldn't have had it any other way.

My issue with your statements are that (a) they're too broad, and (b) I doubt any GUE instructor would approve of the image of GUE that you insist on spreading across the internet.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
Well Jeff and I have both seen something different from our different instrcutors..so there's what you should be looking at my friend.

It's exactly as we said, all over the map.

Again I appreciated you want to tie GUE in with my views, but I never said I was a GUE diver, you really should get over that part though.

In fact I am an instructor for those other ABC agencies, lest you think I don't have a fair amount of viewing pleasure on how these things are typically run.


JeffG:
Oh Oh Oh.....I know this one!!!!!!!!!!

(and no...I'm not kidding)

And yes, MR String, I know, I know too, but I'll let Jeff answer it, we have different names though.

Too broad my hump ;)
 
String:
Right so your experience of one isolated area youre following through and claiming its valid world wide despite having never seen or witnessed practices elsewhere.

Hardly a solid basis for an argument really.

I've seen more than enough to form a very solid idea, including many Brits ;)

I'll be here when you're ready to see what we're referring to. It won't take long, they're everywhere.
 

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