PerroneFord
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I think the GUE-F course is magnificent, and you should take it. However, if you think you'll be ready for Rec Triox in 10 more dives, I think you're going to be in for a rude awakening.
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It typically takes at least 10 dives after GUE-F to just start getting your confidence back that you might, perhaps someday with practice, become a reasonably competent recreational diver ...PerroneFord:
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I would say roughly 100 dives between GUE's DIRF and Rec-triox is typical. 50 to 75 more dives to take the leap to Tech1. And you'll probably provisional one or more of these classes, necessitating more time and dives to work out the kinks and get a reevaluation. All assuming you already have a drysuit and know how to use it.
This is based on my own experiences with DIRF, Tech1 and Cave1 and the experiences of my buddies.
This is based on my own experiences with DIRF, Tech1 and Cave1 and the experiences of my buddies.
Yeah, I had 150 dives between Fundies and Rec Triox, and I may be lucky enough to squeak a pass out of Rec Triox if we can connect with the instructor to finish the class this month.
Fundies rocks you back on your haunches and gives you a WHOLE different picture of what diving skills can and should be. Then Rec Triox knocks the feet you have carefully gotten back up on out from under you again
Fundies rocks you back on your haunches and gives you a WHOLE different picture of what diving skills can and should be. Then Rec Triox knocks the feet you have carefully gotten back up on out from under you again
I await your report with interest.Icarusflies:
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Icarusflies
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OK, OK, I was only going for what the GUE web site requires...50 dives minimum for rec triox....I am not in a rush to get plastic cards....I appreciate your comments tho
Steve
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Bobby
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NWGratefulDiver:
Bob,
Since he did not answer you on this point I will. I wrote the TDI Fundamentals of Technical Diving course. Presently it is not a required class for TDI but I hope in time and as I refine the class that it will be. There are some things in the TDI class that are along the same lines as the GUE Fundies class but there are also some things that are not. I have given the class to TDI so any instructor that has a higher rating may apply to teach the class.
It is my opinion that a diver that wants to move in the direction of technical diving should go through a basic class to show them a baseline expectation for skills. The mind set and skills themselves are very different between recreational and technical focused diving.
Bobby
Icarusflies:
I think what everyone is trying to say that this course is totally different than what we had in any OW classes. The skills necessary in GUE is phenomenal and when mastered is amazing to watch in the water. I have been to cave country in Florida and have watched these people in action. It is incredible the skill and control they have in buoyancy to multitask and hardly move in the water. The philosphy is completely different in DIR and GUE than what we are trained in OW and AOW. So realistically, talk to people here on the boards, get more info and find where you can dive with them. I have had my eyes opened to DIR and am moving in that direction based on the type of diving I want to do. Since I found a mentor very early in my diving, I have been able to achieve a better grasp on diving than I would have on my own or with my LDS.
I borrowed a book to read that has helped me understand the basics of DIR:
"Doing It Right The fundamentals of Better Diving"
by Jarrod Jablonski (GUE)
GOOD LUCK!
Carolyn
Bobby
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Icarusflies:
If I may suggest also a Rescue class. This class is more in depth and will teach you some basic principals that tech. oriented classes tend to assume the student diver already has.
Bobby
Correct, and thanks again Bobby, you did an excellent job.Bobby F:
The people in our area on our boards know this entirely, as any discussion about this is prefaced by your comments, and I make sure of it.
It is however totally off-point to the OP's question of agency standards etc, so I felt going into it was pointless in this respect.
I as well look forward to the day we can have this course as a base-line of skills expectation moving forward. I guess we agree this is not the case currently, which incidentally is the point Jeff and I have mentioned more than a few times.
Anyway, this looks a lot like several other arguements I've had in the past. Always attempt to head it off at the pass,...sometimes we do, sometime we don't, sometimes a lost internet connection does it for us.
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