Streamlined OW Configuration vs. What?

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Only issue I’ve had is the hose gets a bit twisted.

Braided hose?

I dive the ‘advanced OW’ configuration (Florida phrase for what we’re talking about) and my rubber hoses are well-behaved.

Under the arm (no wrap around the neck) requires an angled elbow. 90* works well for me but shallower angles are available.
 
The "feature" I like about around the neck is when the 2nd stage is dropped it stays right next to the alternate. I don't have to fish for it. Both regs in the same place always. I use a swivel on both, just makes it more comfortable during dive, IMHO.
 
Braided hose?

I dive the ‘advanced OW’ configuration (Florida phrase for what we’re talking about) and my rubber hoses are well-behaved.

Under the arm (no wrap around the neck) requires an angled elbow. 90* works well for me but shallower angles are available.

That is funny because I have heard of the streamlined open water rig being referred to as the Florida rig, of course, in Florida. That being the primary to be donated second on a 40 inches hose (36 for short people) with a 70/90 degree angle swivel and the secondary on a necklace. I guess it makes sense as Florida cave divers took a holiday from underwater spelunking and took a trip to the ocean some may have decided their long hoses were unnecessarily long (often debated) for open water and started using the under the shoulder routing instead. Some chose a 60 inch hose instead because 87 degree water under a bright Florida sun in the Keys just did not seem to justify a bulky can light leaving no place to conveniently stow the loop of the by then standard 72 inches hose. Maybe?

Hmmm, Florida rig, okay. I use a braided hose. Have not had any issues really. The "Florida" rig tends to pull down on the regulator which eventually annoys me:



But the 60/72 pulls to the right which also eventually annoys me, like this:



And this:



So then I put a 70 degree swivel on the 60 inch hose and that helped:



But have since removed the swivel and reverted to no swivel and of course it tugs right:



It is true that rubber hoses usually lay better but I just cannot afford the weight penalty. If I can get there in my truck then rubber, if it takes a big silver bird to get me there then it is braided all the way.
 
That is funny because I have heard of the streamlined open water rig being referred to as the Florida rig, of course, in Florida. That being the primary to be donated second on a 40 inches hose (36 for short people) with a 70/90 degree angle swivel and the secondary on a necklace. I guess it makes sense as Florida cave divers took a holiday from underwater spelunking and took a trip to the ocean some may have decided their long hoses were unnecessarily long (often debated) for open water and started using the under the shoulder routing instead. Some chose a 60 inch hose instead because 87 degree water under a bright Florida sun in the Keys just did not seem to justify a bulky can light leaving no place to conveniently stow the loop of the by then standard 72 inches hose. Maybe?

Hmmm, Florida rig, okay. I use a braided hose. Have not had any issues really. The "Florida" rig tends to pull down on the regulator which eventually annoys me but the 60/72 pulls to the right which eventually annoys me, like this:


And this:



So then I put a 70 degree swivel on the 60 inch hose and that helped:



But have since removed the swivel and reverted to no swivel:



It is true that rubber hoses usually lay better but I just cannot afford the weight penalty.
Ok, just bought a 60" to try that routing because of the "downward right tug" of the under-the-arm routing, and was debating to leave the 70deg swivel on/off. I think this cinches it for me to at least try it with the swivel first.
 
I removed the swivel from my 60 inches hoses because of the internal Hogarthain minimalsit conflict within me. If a something is not needed then that something should not be there. The photos I chose exaggerate (along with the non-rectilinear wide angle lenses) the condition. But, yes, the swivel helped keep the regulator more often straight. And I just bought one of these for my 60 inch hose, three times the usual price but it is "high flow" :wink: :

 
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Braided hose?

I dive the ‘advanced OW’ configuration (Florida phrase for what we’re talking about) and my rubber hoses are well-behaved.

Under the arm (no wrap around the neck) requires an angled elbow. 90* works well for me but shallower angles are available.
Yes, a braided hose but I straightened out the twist this morning before I put on my BCD this morning and it was fine. It’s when I forget to do that that I sometimes get a twist in the hose.
 
That is funny because I have heard of the streamlined open water rig being referred to as the Florida rig, of course, in Florida. That being the primary to be donated second on a 40 inches hose (36 for short people) with a 70/90 degree angle swivel and the secondary on a necklace. I guess it makes sense as Florida cave divers took a holiday from underwater spelunking and took a trip to the ocean some may have decided their long hoses were unnecessarily long (often debated) for open water and started using the under the shoulder routing instead. Some chose a 60 inch hose instead because 87 degree water under a bright Florida sun in the Keys just did not seem to justify a bulky can light leaving no place to conveniently stow the loop of the by then standard 72 inches hose. Maybe?

Hmmm, Florida rig, okay. I use a braided hose. Have not had any issues really. The "Florida" rig tends to pull down on the regulator which eventually annoys me:



But the 60/72 pulls to the right which also eventually annoys me, like this:



And this:



So then I put a 70 degree swivel on the 60 inch hose and that helped:



But have since removed the swivel and reverted to no swivel and of course it tugs right:



It is true that rubber hoses usually lay better but I just cannot afford the weight penalty. If I can get there in my truck then rubber, if it takes a big silver bird to get me there then it is braided all the way.
This is really helpful to me and shows the advantage
That is funny because I have heard of the streamlined open water rig being referred to as the Florida rig, of course, in Florida. That being the primary to be donated second on a 40 inches hose (36 for short people) with a 70/90 degree angle swivel and the secondary on a necklace. I guess it makes sense as Florida cave divers took a holiday from underwater spelunking and took a trip to the ocean some may have decided their long hoses were unnecessarily long (often debated) for open water and started using the under the shoulder routing instead. Some chose a 60 inch hose instead because 87 degree water under a bright Florida sun in the Keys just did not seem to justify a bulky can light leaving no place to conveniently stow the loop of the by then standard 72 inches hose. Maybe?

Hmmm, Florida rig, okay. I use a braided hose. Have not had any issues really. The "Florida" rig tends to pull down on the regulator which eventually annoys me:



But the 60/72 pulls to the right which also eventually annoys me, like this:



And this:



So then I put a 70 degree swivel on the 60 inch hose and that helped:



But have since removed the swivel and reverted to no swivel and of course it tugs right:



It is true that rubber hoses usually lay better but I just cannot afford the weight penalty. If I can get there in my truck then rubber, if it takes a big silver bird to get me there then it is braided all the way.
This is really helpful to me because I see the advantage of the swivel that I read about-no pulling to the right. It looks like my current configuration is just fine for my new regulator. Now to decide on rubber vs. braided hoses….
 

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