Sewage released into Boston Harbor

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RI Oceanographer wrote

" If you see that kind of thing it probably came from a boat illegally dumping its head."

Or when he takes off his drysuit and shakes it over the side of the boat.

Couldnt resist. Im stuck here memorizing mechanisms what misery.

;)
 
ScubaSarus:
Or when he takes off his drysuit and shakes it over the side of the boat.

Couldnt resist. Im stuck here memorizing mechanisms what misery.

;)

Dude! I do plenty of weird stuff for you to make fun of, you don't need to make stuff up.
 
LMAO! You two crack me up, especially since one of you is SUPPOSED to be studying and the other is SUPPOSED to be working! ;)
 
Snagged by Gidds.

Chris you don't think people are gonna believe that I hope. And Gidds has a good point there.

LMAOL
 
RIOceanographer:
Since I have had to sit through the various nasty details of how sewage treatment plants work in marine pollution classes and in various meetings on water quality in Narragansett Bay I thought I'd share something about how this works.

When one of these overflows happens it is because the water is flowing in faster than they can treat it and they don't have adequate capacity to store the excess until they can catch up. This will often happen after a big rain event even if the plant doesn't malfunction just because it doesn't have the capacity to handle it. The Fields Point plant in Providence has had huge problems with this, and pretty much overflows after any major rains event. It is currently being upgraded to reduce these incidents.

When an overflow happens they usually still do the "primary" treatment step to remove solids so you should not see any "harbor trout". If you see that kind of thing it probably came from a boat illegally dumping its head. What the plants are skipping in an overflow is "secondary", and "tertiary" treatment steps (most US treatment plants don't do full tertiary treatment) which take more time . These steps include disinfection and the removal of various dissolved contaminants. The main danger of these overflows is all of the pathogens that get dumped into the water because disinfection was skipped.

If anyone wants to know how this process actually works, this is a really good summary:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewage_treatment

An excellent explanation, Chris...another part of the problem is combined sewer overflow, in which the stormwater and sewer systems are combined and the treatment plants are burdened with treating *everything* during heavy rain events. If the systems were separated, treatment plants wouldn't have to treat stormwater in rain events and the overflows would be nearly as catastrophic. (Granted, stormwater still contains some pathogens due to animal waste and septic system failure.) But at least in RI and MA, most towns are at least *trying* to be on top of nonpoint source (i.e. polluted runoff) water quality issues, including onsite wastewater and stormwater....
 
Ah the colonials dumping tea ... again - what next? :)
 
So, treated water is not drinking water?

:-)
RIOceanographer:
Since I have had to sit through the various nasty details of how sewage treatment plants work in marine pollution classes and in various meetings on water quality in Narragansett Bay I thought I'd share something about how this works.

When one of these overflows happens it is because the water is flowing in faster than they can treat it and they don't have adequate capacity to store the excess until they can catch up. This will often happen after a big rain event even if the plant doesn't malfunction just because it doesn't have the capacity to handle it. The Fields Point plant in Providence has had huge problems with this, and pretty much overflows after any major rains event. It is currently being upgraded to reduce these incidents.

When an overflow happens they usually still do the "primary" treatment step to remove solids so you should not see any "harbor trout". If you see that kind of thing it probably came from a boat illegally dumping its head. What the plants are skipping in an overflow is "secondary", and "tertiary" treatment steps (most US treatment plants don't do full tertiary treatment) which take more time . These steps include disinfection and the removal of various dissolved contaminants. The main danger of these overflows is all of the pathogens that get dumped into the water because disinfection was skipped.

If anyone wants to know how this process actually works, this is a really good summary:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewage_treatment
 
SadiesMom:
An excellent explanation, Chris...another part of the problem is combined sewer overflow, in which the stormwater and sewer systems are combined and the treatment plants are burdened with treating *everything* during heavy rain events.

Yup that is exactly why it happens.

If anyone is wondering why we use combined sewers considering the problems they can create, the reason is basically that the combined sewers were designed when there were no treatment plants to worry about and so we sort of got stuck with them. This link explains the issue a bit more.

http://www.epa.gov/reg3wapd/cso/
 
:geek:
 
On a side note: I was a tender for a commercial dive company and my diver and I spent 2 days in a waste water treatment plant - I'm assuming it was the 1st stage area.

We launched our boat into a thick mess of... well... you know... crap. Had to break it apart with an oar just to get through it.

His job was to repair torn curtains that directed the flow by sewing them with line. Then I would drop 50lb bags of quick-crete to the bottom and he'd place them on the trailing flaps to cure underwater so the curtains would stay stable.

Haha! He used to get so angry at me. He'd call for another bag and I'd drop it and you'd hear him on the radio cursing I almost knocked his hard hat off. DONT AIM FOR THE BUBBLES! LOL. I swear I wouldn't, but they must have some lift to them and glide directly to him. ROFL.

Anyway, we smelled like a sewer for about a week afterwards. TASTY!
 

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