Conception Captain Found Guilty of Manslaughter

[scubadada]

Was it? Or was that just collective speculation? I thought the USCG report was inconclusive as to source of ignition.

No doubt a scenario can be imagined where the batteries started the fire, but there's no certainty of that to my knowledge.

I thought there was something about a trash can? Roving watch might have caught that and had a chance to extinguish it

 

[boulderjohn]

No doubt a scenario can be imagined where the batteries started the fire, but there's no certainty of that to my knowledge.

What difference what it make if batteries did start the fire? If they did, a roving watch should have caught it. If the fire grew larger, the crew could have used the fire fighting equipment on board to put it out if they had been taught how to use the equipment. While that happened, they could have gotten the divers to safety, with some of them going through a usable second exit. It was the lack of a roving watch, the lack of fire training to the crew, and the lack of a proper escape exit that caused the tragedy.

 

[Manatee Diver]

I thought there was something about a trash can? Roving watch might have caught that and had a chance to extinguish it

The ATF reconstruction said that the ignition source was a trash can under the staircase going up to the pilot house.

 

[Tracy]

What difference what it make if batteries did start the fire? If they did, a roving watch should have caught it. If the fire grew larger, the crew could have used the fire fighting equipment on board to put it out if they had been taught how to use the equipment. ...

I purchased these for each of my boats for all battery charging. I honestly have no idea how well it would contain a lithium fire, but I think it would make tossing the entire thing overboard much easier in the event it should ever happen.

 

[Manatee Diver]

I purchased these for each of my boats for all battery charging. I honestly have no idea how well it would contain a lithium fire, but I think it would make tossing the entire thing overboard much easier in the event it should ever happen.

You only do day boats right? Realistically how much battery charging would one be doing on them?

But that would probably work fine, the lithium cells in most batteries are small, and outside of DPVs you have maybe a dozen cells.

 

[Tracy]

You only do day boats right? Realistically how much battery charging would one be doing on them?

But that would probably work fine, the lithium cells in most batteries are small, and outside of DPVs you have maybe a dozen cells.

My charter boat is a day boat. The only batteries charging are mine and only on trips that I am teaching or guiding.
My personal boat goes out overnight, but again just charging mine and guests. Nothing like a liveaboard situation.

 

[Canajan]

Lipo safe bags are reasonably priced and should requested by operators for people coming aboard. We use them on airplanes, haven’t heard of any actually being used but they are there just in case.

 

[Manatee Diver]

Lipo safe bags are reasonably priced and should requested by operators for people coming aboard.

The operator should be providing the safe charging area.

 

[Richard Dayan]

Was it? Or was that just collective speculation? I thought the USCG report was inconclusive as to source of ignition.

No doubt a scenario can be imagined where the batteries started the fire, but there's no certainty of that to my knowledge.

There was a virus lab in Wuhan, but no one conclusively said it was a lab virus leak. Lots of fires are hard to know for certain the cause, but it seems to me that was the most likely cause of the fire. My opinion is it started while the batteries were charging overnight. Lithium-ion batteries drive fire death toll in NYC to highest in 20 years. No certainty but I think that's what did it, and people should be careful with them.

 

[Manatee Diver]

Lots of fires are hard to know for certain the cause, but it seems to me that was the most likely cause of the fire. My opinion is it started while the batteries were charging overnight.

You can have your opinions, but the ATF recreation found that the fire likely started in the trash can under the stairs to the pilot house.

Battery charging was done inside the salon, while those stairs are outside.