Sailboat gets in the way of Great Lakes freighter

[lowwall]

Here's the rules in case anyone is curious.

 

[Wookie]

Here's the rules in case anyone is curious.

Don’t forget the special rules for this specific area….33 CFR § 162.134 - Connecting waters from Lake Huron to Lake Erie; traffic rules.

 

[Scraps]

Generally the members of this forum are passengers, not boaters and really don't have a damn clue what they're talking about when it comes to the rules of the road.

Send me a PM if you want to compare how many times we’ve taken the rules of the road exam and what scores we earned.

Also anyone claiming it was operating in a "narrow channel" clearly doesn't how how to look at a damn chart. There's plenty of water there.

Anyone disputing that the M/V Cuyahoga was operating in a narrow channel has no clue how little freedom a pilot has to depart from his line as he navigates a 600-foot single-screw ship around a bend in a current.

The term “narrow channel” is deliberately not defined in the rules because what constitutes “narrow” is contingent on many variables.

However, you can be confident that a channel for which the Coast Guard has codified regulations limiting meeting and overtaking situations qualifies as “narrow.”

 

[Wookie]

Send me a PM if you want to compare how many times we’ve taken the rules of the road exam and what scores we earned.

I must say I’ve only taken it once. 6 issues ago.

 

[Scraps]

I must say I’ve only taken it once. 6 issues ago.

I had to take it at OCS, for each shipboard assignment as a deck officer, and for my merchant license. Five times in all.

 

[Wookie]

I had to take at OCS, for each shipboard assignment as a deck officer, and for my merchant license. Five times in all.

I am currently assigned to a flight I destroyer in dry dock. I had forgotten the pain and agony JOs go through to be OOD.

 

[Jared0425]

I was in our patrol boat 4 miles downstream when this incident occurred. We raced up there and found out that the guy was trying to maneuver for 5 minutes and the current took steerage away from him. He had issues getting his motor started.

 

[Jared0425]

They’re all called Lakers.

There used to be tankers on the lakes. Not sure when they went away. I’m a boatnerd and follow a number of FB Great Lakes shipping groups. I don’t ever remember there being a tanker the last few years.

Both Algoma and Desenges operate tankers on the lakes. Usually Sarnia to Montreal is the route.

 

[lowwall]

Both Algoma and Desenges operate tankers on the lakes. Usually Sarnia to Montreal is the route.

Thanks. These tankers are about half the length and have less than 20% of the capacity of the largest lakers. They carry refined petroleum products, not crude oil.

Here's one that's currently in Lake Saint Claire: Algonorth, Ramira and ALGONORTH (Crude Oil Tanker) Registered in Canada - Vessel details, Current position and Voyage information - IMO 9362152, MMSI 316003250, Call Sign NAPP

Desgagnés has a bunch of tankers in this size class all around the world. I see a couple in Montreal. With a free account on marinetraffic.com it's hard to check on all of them

 

[Jared0425]

Thanks. These tankers are about half the length and have less than 20% of the capacity of the largest lakers. They carry refined petroleum products, not crude oil.

Here's one that's currently in Lake Saint Claire: Algonorth, Ramira and ALGONORTH (Crude Oil Tanker) Registered in Canada - Vessel details, Current position and Voyage information - IMO 9362152, MMSI 316003250, Call Sign NAPP

Desgagnés has a bunch of tankers in this size class all around the world. I see a couple in Montreal. With a free account on marinetraffic.com it's hard to check on all of them

Algonorth is the most frequent visitor to Sarina. She was moored there for most of the week. I got aboard her several years ago when she docked at the Port Huron Seaway Terminal when there was a spillage cleanup.

Amoco boats and its whalebacks where the best looking tankers that plied our waters though.