Regulator record - anyone beat this?

[ekewaka]

Better get a copy of the instructor manual and read it before posting something like this. I'm a PADI DM and even though I don't agree with alot of their stuff and will probably go to NAUI for my instructor's cert they are not that stupid to suggest minimum ascent rates.PADI's recommended MAXIMUM ascent rate is 60 ft per minute or 1 ft per second. 30fpm is preferred and that is what we teach. Why in God's name would anyone want to do a CESA faster than that(60fpm). If you've been properly trained a 60fpm cesa is not difficult. Any faster than that risks injury from lung overexpansion, problems associated with reverse blockages, even an AGE is not out of the realm of possibility. There are no minimum ascent rates. You can come up at 2 fpm if you want to. Slower is always better.

I was being sarcastic, but I disagree with you about one thing. I think PADI is stupid for recommending 60 ft ascent rates. That is way too fast.

 

[Warren_L]

I was being sarcastic, but I disagree with you about one thing. I think PADI is stupid for recommending 60 ft ascent rates. That is way too fast.

They don't as far as I know. The current recommendation is 30 ft/min with a 60 ft/min max.

 

[drbill]

Hmmm... I dive with four regs myself (but none are used as sand hooks and all but my main secondary are clipped off. The others are my octo, my Air-2 and my pony reg. I keep the Air-2 on my rig because I like the buttons.

Who certifies these folks? Just look around you at the nearest dive park. It is amazing what passes for a certified diver these days.

 

[caseybird]

What is PADI tecahing now? When I was certified, it was 60 feet per minute, and the safety stop was optional on most dives.

Quoted from page 142 of the Instructor's manual for the Open Water Diver's Course:

"Emphasis note: make a safety stop after every dive. [Explain PADI's S.A.F.E. diver campaign- be a S.A.F.E. diver- slowly ascend from every dive, and make a safety stop after every dive.]

Yep, that's what PADI teaches.

 

[tridacna]

Ok...I think the main problem here is that this woman had a very bad experience that she had not been trained or properly trained to handle. A freeflow will panic alot of divers (experienced or not) and unfortunately, instead of being trained to deal with it after the fact, she opted for more gadgets. How long had this couple been certified and how often had they dove? I know many divers who have dove maybe 2x since their checkout dives last year. Unfortunately, her gear choices have now made her more of a hazzard to herself and others. Upon seeing their setup I would have tried to make suggestions and really been honest with them to try to get them to do a lot more training to deal with her issues. I understand people are hard headed but people need to have a reality check too. I am still learning so much about this sport and am very welcome to suggestions to become a better diver and buddy. I do hope that they will not become another sad statistic, but at this rate it will happen sooner than later.

BTW...the weight comments didn't bother me. I have lost 85lbs over the last year and have about 30 to go! I would never have begun diving at my former weight just because I didn't want the added risks. Plus I wanted to look cute in a wetsuit! LOL!

Happy Safe Diving Y'all!
Carolyn :sharks:

I tried to explain to 4R and 3R what they should focus on. How to clip their octos onto their rigs. What to do when they lose their primary. The futility of carrying a spare air to 110ft. I got nowhere. They would not listen. I got the "Spare Air is better than nothing" line. Also "I can't believe that dangling a reg is dangerous. Why?" Darwin usually takes care of the rest.

 

[ekewaka]

I think this thread has gotten of topic. Let's just not worry about the PADI standards for now. We don't even know that she was PADI certified. It is obvious that the woman is interested in safety, since she had 4 regulators. We can assume that she is doing a 30 foot per minute ascent rate and a safety stop.

Now we just need one more thing. Does anyone know the answer to my other question? What is a normal SAC rate for three panicked divers and a fat woman?

 

[almitywife]

more to the point.... does anyone know the sac rate for a voluptuous sized gal when she pulls out a knife to push off the 3 trim, taunt and terrific he-men that think she is going to share air with them, considering they were laughing at her on the boat

 

[Wildcard]

I seem to remember a thread a while back about a diver with two or three octos...and a snorkeler on every one of them. I will try to find it.

This kid kills me! He's not DIR yet claims it, he has so few dives he can still count them but is free to bash each and every person he comes across....I think I dove with this guy a few hundred times. Knows it all, cant tell him anything and ends up either screwing up the dive for everyone or has to be rescued from his own stupidity.:shakehead

 

[LIVES4SHARKS]

I tried to explain to 4R and 3R what they should focus on. How to clip their octos onto their rigs. What to do when they lose their primary. The futility of carrying a spare air to 110ft. I got nowhere. They would not listen. I got the "Spare Air is better than nothing" line. Also "I can't believe that dangling a reg is dangerous. Why?" Darwin usually takes care of the rest.

Yeah definitely the next dive accident waiting to happen! Thanks for trying! It's just sad sad sad! :shakehead

Carolyn:sharks:

 

[LIVES4SHARKS]

Voluptuous! Good word! He he he! I resemble that remark! LOL!

*smooches*
Carolyn:sharks: