Or an Y or H or reversed T double valve with 2 separate first stages. Din, of course, as on my tank...Yoke valves. Enough said.
Perfect reason for taking a Pony.
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Or an Y or H or reversed T double valve with 2 separate first stages. Din, of course, as on my tank...Yoke valves. Enough said.
Perfect reason for taking a Pony.
Definitely if you’re plan is to crash head first into a wreck, it takes some force to dislodge a pressurised first stage.I think what is more handy is a din conversion kit to his regulator.
My pony is for me, period.I don’t have a problem with people carrying a pony, but its for their own benefit not a buddy. I’m not buying the Mother Theresa bit like it’s for someone else.
Did you get to dive the Columbia, near Campbell River ? I watched that one sink.Was this in Florida? While I have not dived any wrecks there, I have heard of some rather wicked currents, so I can envision this. I can't see this happening in the artificial reefs in BC where I had done my recreational wreck course many moons ago.
No. I might be on VI in January, but I plan to dive in the Victoria area.Did you get to dive the Columbia, near Campbell River ? I watched that one sink.
... well you better plan on a dive or 2 with me. We can dive with Jay and when I reach my limits, and you guys have tons of gas, I can solo up.No. I might be on VI in January, but I plan to dive in the Victoria area.
I'm perfectly content with hour long, no deco dives.... well you better plan on a dive or 2 with me. We can dive with Jay and when I reach my limits, and you guys have tons of gas, I can solo up.
Except that there is no evidence that it will make you safer. We are in theology territory here. I already provided real life emergency situations where it did not help or it was actually root cause of a incident. I do not see any examples from counter arguments, just, assumptions.No. It is not hard to control whether I am endangered by their reaction if I need gas. Carry a pony, after gaining the comfort in the water to make that easy. No need to stay home for safety.
Slipstream? . Please have a look at this Basics knowledge before talking about Monofin Technique. Seriously..The drag of a pony sidemounted under my armpit, in my slipstream, causing me to over breath my reg, causing a CO2 hit and thus making me the liability is over blown. Also, if the water is such my regs could freeze, I should have better gear and redundancy anyway.
I am wondering where I argued self reliance is bad. I am pointing out equipment reliance is not making things better. If every scuba diver could free dive half of their certified depth, how would that effect their self reliance and confidence. It is only 15m for an AOWD, anyone can hold their breath for 30 seconds. I often get average depth of 15 meters when doing recreational diving even max was 30-40m. This means in average I am within the range of the surface..By better divers, I did not mean to include 'better' by the act of carrying a pony. As whether ponies are useful is the debate at hand. I meant in their skills and their calm and deliberate reaction to small incidents in the water. Diving would be safer if all divers were much better in that way.
I am better in that sense. All divers I am with are not. And they may not be able to provide me with effective assistance. So I ensure I'm fairly self-reliant.
Yes, if we are in 10' on a clear calm beach, I will have assessed the dive conditions and I'll leave the pony ashore. I'm just trying to keep the discussion a bit simpler. The beach is not the large variable of interest here. My unknown dive buddy is.
Ensuring self-reliance does not imply lack of dive planing. Arguing that it does is bizarre.
They can get all the air they want on the surface, without any need to look for it. If you can’t find your buddy surface.My pony is for me, period.
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But if I see a diver, on any dive I am on, and they are in distress, coming towards me signaling out of air; the first thing they are looking for is a yellow octo. I will gladly share with a diver in need, especially if they are not my buddy.
I have a different philosophy. If I am on a dive and see that another diver needs air, they can get it from me. If I do not have a pny, I will do a standard air share and accompany them to the surface. If I have a pony and it somehow (????) becomes expedient for them to use it, I might even give it to them.My pony is for me, period.
Piss
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But if I see a diver, on any dive I am on, and they are in distress, coming towards me signaling out of air; the first thing they are looking for is a yellow octo. I will gladly share with a diver in need, especially if they are not my buddy.