ekewaka
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Would it be possible to allow everyone to read the forum, but require them to opt in before they can post?
Poll on DIR forum to Opt or not to Opt
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John_B
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Thanks for all your efforts on this Doc! (Does that mean I get to vote again? 
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I thought we voted with anonimity. Now everyone might think I actually like DIR or something...what will my friends think?
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I think it should be opt-in only and invisible to those who choose not to.
Not being DIR, but actually being curious about some things DIR, I hope people think twice before pushing for the second option.
I'm a member of Solo divers, an opt-in group that doesn't require mod approval, and it seems, overall, to be pretty effective. People know that they explicitly have to opt-in to have access to the area, and can be barred from it short of being given a vacation from SB overall, if it just happens to be something they are passionate about in a PITA way, choosing to be disruptive. It's known that you either "play nice", relatively, or go away.
Equally, I'm a member of the Pros group. In that case there is a pretty simple, clear, base requirement for what it takes to be a member, non-members aren't actually wanted in that area, a mod establishes that folks meet the credentials (reasonably inclusive, just that you have to meet some agencies definition of a pro, not a particular agency). For people interested in things, but not qualifying, there's the "Going Pro" subforum under Basic Scuba.
Unfortunately, DIR does seem to raise passions (even amongst your own group), so a "Going DIR" open subforum would probably not work cleanly -- it would still get trolls who couldn't be thrown out cleanly short of an overall SB vacation. Making DIR an opt-in area like Solo might provide the most access to all, yet still have a gentle hammer over people.
Just something to think about -- best of luck whatever happens.
I'm a member of Solo divers, an opt-in group that doesn't require mod approval, and it seems, overall, to be pretty effective. People know that they explicitly have to opt-in to have access to the area, and can be barred from it short of being given a vacation from SB overall, if it just happens to be something they are passionate about in a PITA way, choosing to be disruptive. It's known that you either "play nice", relatively, or go away.
Equally, I'm a member of the Pros group. In that case there is a pretty simple, clear, base requirement for what it takes to be a member, non-members aren't actually wanted in that area, a mod establishes that folks meet the credentials (reasonably inclusive, just that you have to meet some agencies definition of a pro, not a particular agency). For people interested in things, but not qualifying, there's the "Going Pro" subforum under Basic Scuba.
Unfortunately, DIR does seem to raise passions (even amongst your own group), so a "Going DIR" open subforum would probably not work cleanly -- it would still get trolls who couldn't be thrown out cleanly short of an overall SB vacation. Making DIR an opt-in area like Solo might provide the most access to all, yet still have a gentle hammer over people.
Just something to think about -- best of luck whatever happens.
Opt in gets my vote. At least then there is a valid/overt action to enter the forum, and an agreement to abide by the rules. Now where do I opt in so I can continue to troll?
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Seriously, this is a good place for an open exchange of DIR philosophy and approaches. There are plenty of boards already out there that are exclusive. I think the simpler answer would be to make the trolls take a small vacation from the area. (Or Public Executions!!)
Seriously, this is a good place for an open exchange of DIR philosophy and approaches. There are plenty of boards already out there that are exclusive. I think the simpler answer would be to make the trolls take a small vacation from the area. (Or Public Executions!!)
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I've opted in and lurk at TDM and DS. TDM even calls their section "Unified Team Diving & DIR" - neither board seems to have as much traffic as this one does, though. I've learned so much.
When DIR first caught my eye, here, I think I came in right after the great crash, so I didn't notice very many of the negativity-filled threads. As a result, I poked around, got curious.. started reading everything I could about DIR to learn about the philosophy and improving my own skills and have had some great encounters with folks privately.
Quite honestly, after seeing all the silt getting stirred up lately, I think this board needs to make the DIR forum an opt-in without approval, simply so others like me can wander in. I wouldn't worry about that keeping folks like me out - it didn't on the other boards, after all. And there's enough static about DIR in the regular forums to bait the hook, so to speak. The curious shall come.
We should all be able to focus on our passions, and not to the detriment of anyone else's, in the appropriate forums. Right now, this isn't looking possible or any fun here on SB until we are able to help the people that aren't interested in positive contributions not give in to their urges.
I'm not posting this looking for a response, but rather simply trying to provide some insight from a newbie/acolyte's eyes. Take it for whatever you feel it's worth.
When DIR first caught my eye, here, I think I came in right after the great crash, so I didn't notice very many of the negativity-filled threads. As a result, I poked around, got curious.. started reading everything I could about DIR to learn about the philosophy and improving my own skills and have had some great encounters with folks privately.
Quite honestly, after seeing all the silt getting stirred up lately, I think this board needs to make the DIR forum an opt-in without approval, simply so others like me can wander in. I wouldn't worry about that keeping folks like me out - it didn't on the other boards, after all. And there's enough static about DIR in the regular forums to bait the hook, so to speak. The curious shall come.
We should all be able to focus on our passions, and not to the detriment of anyone else's, in the appropriate forums. Right now, this isn't looking possible or any fun here on SB until we are able to help the people that aren't interested in positive contributions not give in to their urges.
I'm not posting this looking for a response, but rather simply trying to provide some insight from a newbie/acolyte's eyes. Take it for whatever you feel it's worth.
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