All the ones that the dive shop sells ?which specific one .....
Online ?.......and how to have it do the dives in the class ...
Alberto
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All the ones that the dive shop sells ?which specific one .....
Online ?.......and how to have it do the dives in the class ...
PADI also discourages students under "master diver" level from diving without an instructor present.
If you look at point #2 in 330Bar's list, you can see who is assigned the task of thinking. PADI also discourages students under "master diver" level from diving without an instructor present. So, I'm guessing that "officially" PADI diver-buddy independence is intended to be a core skill for the very few. Other agencies teach a higher degree of self-reliance earlier on. This thread seems to be split between those who are fine with dive instruction's drift towards passport diving and those who are lamenting or even fighting the erosion of rigor and self-reliance. I took both NAUI and PADI basic open water. I started diving by paying instructors for instruction and diving with only my buddy, never changed. I started this shortly after both OW classes and have a couple of really bad dives in my log to prove it. Whose fault would that be? Anything that stresses personal skills resonates with me because, twice proven, that is what keeps me alive. However, I'm also sensitive to those who just want to have a fun dive, look at stuff, and hang out with other divers. That's just fine with me, no judgement, just different interests. How are they best served? I dive with two computers, one that I know inside and out, and one that I need to learn a hell of a lot better so that it will help get me back from where I'm now headed. In addition, I carry turn pressures and OH S***! highly abbreviated air 'tables' cut at 5 worst-case depths and the limits of my gas load for the planned dive. Anything past that is unfortunately, purely theoretical. All divers are not alike, one style of instruction does not fit all.
All divers are not alike, one style of instruction does not fit all.
................ I think NAUI and PADI do a great job at offering as much as they can in a 1101 class. Dont you?
There it is...the answer to stop this argument lol.
Teach BOTH!
Now let's pen an email and send it to all of the agencies and get the ball rolling )
When who responds? As far as I know, PADI has, at the very least, an informal policy of NOT responding to these boards -- call PADI and ask if you want the answer.Point taken, I'll share what PADI has to say about it when they respond.
Do we really need to teach people how to dive a computer? I got a 5 minute talk on how to use mine when I bought it. That was pretty much all that was necessary.
How experienced of a diver were you when you started to use one? I have 7 dives under my belt... including my discover scuba and OW cert dives and have never seen a computer at work. Would I feel comfortable strapping one on my wrist and relying only on that with 5 minutes of training in it's use? No. Maybe I'm overly conservative. I don't mind that. However, I'd probably feel more comfortable with doing something like that had I had some very basic PDC training in my OW class. At least I'd know basically how to read it and what things were. Even with a PDC, I'd probably plan my dives using tables...at least in the beginning.
When who responds? As far as I know, PADI has, at the very least, an informal policy of NOT responding to these boards -- call PADI and ask if you want the answer.
How experienced of a diver were you when you started to use one? I have 7 dives under my belt... including my discover scuba and OW cert dives and have never seen a computer at work. Would I feel comfortable strapping one on my wrist and relying only on that with 5 minutes of training in it's use? No.