outrage at instructor's intervening with local law

[Genesis]

I have permission to post this.

Note, read backwards - the replies are at the top...

More when I get it; I've been promised more (and in fact there is a public statement forthcoming, it seems. GOOD!)

Karl,

Yes, you have my permission to share what I send you with the discussion groups.

As to your questions regarding Mr. Sayag, we will not share information beyond
+our official position statement. The reason for this is, as a membership
+organization, our written agreement with our members requires confidentiality,
+unless the member is suspended or expelled, regarding any disciplinary action
+we may take.

Regards,

Jeff Nadler
Vice President, Industry & Government Relations
PADI Americas
Phone: 1-949-858-7234 ext 2260

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From: Karl Denninger [mailto:karl@Denninger.Net]
Sent: 15 October, 2002 2:09 PM
To: Jeff Nadler
Subject: Re: Email address...


Jeff;

Thank you.

Some additional questions....

Has Mr. Sayag been censured, or will he be?

Does he remain the director for that nation and elegible to use PADI's name
in promulgating his position?

Do I have permission to release your email to the lists and discussion
groups where this discussion is taking place, along with your subsequent
response?

.....

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 01:56:21PM -0700, Jeff Nadler wrote:
> Thanks for contacting me last week, Karl. I appreciate having the opportunity
+to address this issue. Here's where we are, as of today.
>
> Yesterday, I met with the management of our office in Europe responsible for
+servicing Israel. They advised me that they have been actively pursuing it,
+including being in communication with the author of the letter, Eyal Sayag. I
+will be meeting with them tomorrow to review in detail what they have learned
+and to finalize our actions in response, including a position statement. In the
+interim, last week PADI Europe sent a letter to the Israeli Diving Authority,
+advising them that Mr. Sayag's letter does not represent PADI's position, but
+his own personal opinion, and that PADI will be officially submitting its
+position directly to the Authority.
>
> I'll be back in contact with you as soon as I have additional information.\
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff Nadler
> Vice President, Industry & Government Relations
> PADI Americas
> Phone: 1-949-858-7234 ext 2260
>

 

[orbiter]

i've posted the reply in the local forum and although it is very similar to the response we got from PADI it gives us some hope for further clarification from PADI about the issue and its formal position.
I'd like to thank everyone for the effort and for re-instilling my faith in divers as individuals enjoying an individual sport. hopefully these reactions will close the curtain on any other such offers that try to bind us and will allow us to dive unmolested by economic interests.
p.s
thanks again Genesis for everything.

 

[Scuba Jim]

why should we care what the Israelis do?

The diving's crap there!

 

[orbiter]

Scuba Jim once bubbled...
why should we care what the Israelis do?

The diving's crap there!

and invite you over - take you around some of the less known dive sites, the ones guided dives never reach - c'mon over jim.

 

[Scuba Jim]

Please enlighten me....