Dive Accident Insurance Limitations

[russ805]

Thanks.. This is one of the threads discussing this.

Post in thread 'Diving beyond cert?'

Jul 15, 2024

Exactly how many dives (beyond OW training dives) have you completed in the two months since your OW certification? (Exactly how many is "a few dives"?)

rx7diver

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I was diving in Cebu in February and a woman on the boat claimed to work as a technical staff at a chamber in Europe. She also repeated the claim insurance companies would not pay out of you dived beyond 18m as PADI OW and 30m as PADI AOW. She told some vacation divers the chamber would forward their dive computer logs to the insurance company. Thing is these vacation divers held up thir arms to show they had no DCs lol

I then showed her the email I got from DAN that what she said was untrue. She tried to argue with me that the DAN staff were wrong lol. She would not admit she was wrong.

A know it all on a boat refused to admit that she was wrong...shocker

 

[Bob DBF]

Here is an explanation of the PADI 130 foot limit.

It is not a legally enforceable limit. It is different from the other limits because it is the end of the line for NDL diving. If using the PADI tables, that is where the tables end, except for contingency.

The end of the line for NDL diving is 190' on the USN Tables, since agency tables no longer go past 140' as you said. At the time, everyone used the Navy tables, including the agencies.

I have yet to find out when the 130' depth limit actually started in the agencies. The why is easier, the US Navy determined that 130' should be the cutoff between SCUBA and surface supplied gas, except for emergencies, because the time at depth was not sufficient for useful work. I believe this was moved into recreational SCUBA as part of best practices.

 

[tursiops]

The end of the line for NDL diving is 190' on the USN Tables, since agency tables no longer go past 140' as you said. At the time, everyone used the Navy tables, including the agencies.

I have yet to find out when the 130' depth limit actually started in the agencies. The why is easier, the US Navy determined that 130' should be the cutoff between SCUBA and surface supplied gas, except for emergencies, because the time at depth was not sufficient for useful work. I believe this was moved into recreational SCUBA as part of best practices.

According to Owen Lee, in his book :Complete Illustrated Guide to Snorkel and Deep Diving," 1963 (foreword by J-Y Cousteau) and predating most of he agencies, 139 feet was already established as a practical max depth for no-decompression diving, because:

• that's about all you could do with a 72cuft tank (the standard at the tome)
• not much to see deeper than that
• limited bottom times

And, this even assumed just one dive per day.