OMS Wing and single Tank

[Ground0]

Just got an OMS wing, the non bungied one lol, and plan on using it with a single tank for a while. Has or is anyone doing this and if so how good did or does it work out???? I have a AUL backplate, had tank band straps cut in it already and didnt want to spend $100.00+ on an over priced SS backplate. Thanks for your reply.

cheers

 

[The Chairman]

What was the size of your wing? I use a "spreader plate" to hold my wing in place when I dive sans doubles. It stops the taco effect cold! Works great on both my 55# non bungeed and my 100# bungeed OMS wings.

 

[Ground0]

I have a ser of 55# wings. Just took them into a shop to have slits put in for a single tank band, the AUL backplate has slots cut in it for tank bands and a couple of grommets at the bottom of the area where the tank fastens on. What do you use for a spreader plate? I know some people use a second backplate. I have thought of making one out of plastic sheet etc. So wondering what you use.

cheers

 

[The Chairman]

1/8" aluminum plate with a bend to approximate the back plate. It is also about an inch wider all around to keep thewing from flapping. I have 5/16" holes drilled around the perimeter to accomodate any accessories. Of course it has two sets of holes to accomodate the STA.

 

[roakey]

Originally posted by NetDoc
I use a "spreader plate" to hold my wing in place when I dive sans doubles.

More complexity. When will it ever stop?

Roak

 

[o2diver]

I use the STA from OMS and it works fine. I will dive either a 98 or 108 single when working with students. When I'm diving for myself I double up and still have no problems. The bladder and and the STA combo works well.
O2DIVER

 

[The Chairman]

Originally posted by roakey
More complexity. When will it ever stop?

Obviously written by someone who has never USED a spreader plate. It's simple enough that even you could use it. No moving parts, uses the bolts from the STA, certainly this can NOT be beyond your grasp? Nothing to hold, no increased task loading, but hey... you don't use it, so it's best to slam it. I forgot:

Rule #2... belittle anything you don't use. Really slam it if you have never used one, and have no idea how it works. If you don't use it, it must be "Doing it Wrong". Oh, and if you really can't come up with a coherent reason, just call it "too complex" or "convoluted".

 

[roakey]

Originally posted by NetDoc
Obviously written by someone who has never USED a spreader plate. It's simple enough that even you could use it. No moving parts, uses the bolts from the STA, certainly this can NOT be beyond your grasp? Nothing to hold, no increased task loading, but hey... you don't use it, so it's best to slam it.

I don't care how simple it is, it's not needed. I think the root problem here is you OMS folks don't understand what "simple" means. Just talking wings you have twice as much "stuff" as a typical DIR diver, and now you're bolting on spreaders to compensate for OMS not producing a correctly sized wing for single cylinder diving. I mean, a flaw can't get much more obvious than this and you STILL can't see it!

Originally posted by NetDoc
Rule #2... belittle anything you don't use. Really slam it if you have never used one, and have no idea how it works. If you don't use it, it must be "Doing it Wrong". Oh, and if you really can't come up with a coherent reason, just call it "too complex" or "convoluted".

Please Pete, try to stick to truthful statements. I know exactly how it works.

Pointing out how ludicrous it is to make some contraption because you can’t be bothered to make a correctly sized wing is not belittling, it’s pointing out a yet another flaw in the OMS product line.

So now OMS, in addition to having twice as many bladders as a Halcyon wing, twice as many hoses as a Halcyon wing, twice as many power infaltors as a Halcyon wing, twice as many dump valves as a Hacyon wing and Bungees where the Halcyon has none, NOW we have a spreader plate where the Halcyon has none.

Yup, you may not like is but the word "convoluted" pretty well nails it.

Roak

 

[Mverick]

He was talking about the OMS single bladder wings originally.

They are actually nice wings for doubles. Would I rather have a Halcyon, Yea. Am I gonna go throw it out and buy a Halcyon, No. And I know about Halcyon quality. I have 2 of them. They are great.

I do agree about using a smaller wing for a single though. But if it's all you got, just be carefull. I've never seen a spreader plate in action so instead of having one made or making it myself I'd spend $250 or so and get a 27lb Halcyon. Cheap insurance I call it.

 

[The Chairman]

Originally posted by roakey

I think the root problem here is you OMS folks don't understand what "simple" means.

No we don't... you guys own the stock on simple I guess. I must have missed the IPO. Now that STA... do you consider that simple??? No, by your definition that is just adding more complexity. But it serves a purpose, you say. So does my spreader plate. But, but, it doesn't fit into Rule #2! Well you got me there.

Please Pete, try to stick to truthful statements. I know exactly how it works.

Convoluted, complex, AND a liar. Dang there goes my self esteem again. Now the funny part is that there were several parts to Rule #2... and like you only disagree with one point??? You have never used a spreader plate (I know, 'cause this one is home made) so you aren't talking from EXPERIENCE. You have probably never seen one (I assume that others have been made), but you know precisely how it works. You are smarter than me... but you were already convinced of that!

Pointing out how ludicrous it is to make some contraption

Dang, I should have waited... Convoluted, Complex, a liar and NOW ludicrous. Have you ever thought of working on your social skills? Just a question... but then I remembered Rule #2... Since you don't use tact... IT MUST NOT BE NEEDED!

So now OMS, in addition to having twice as many bladders as a Halcyon wing, twice as many hoses as a Halcyon wing, twice as many power infaltors as a Halcyon wing, twice as many dump valves as a Hacyon wing and Bungees where the Halcyon has none, NOW we have a spreader plate where the Halcyon has none.

You say twice as many, I say redundant. Dang, I thought you guys liked redundancy... three lights, more than one tank... but wait... wait... you don't use a redundant bladder, so we can apply Rule #2... YOU DON'T NEED ONE... and you even get to criticize everyone who disagrees with you! Dang, I wish I could use "convoluted", "complex", "liar" and "ludicrous" in all of my posts... but I really DON'T believe in rule #2. I simply lack that type of arrogance to think that everyone else is stupid.

Yup, you may not like is but the word "convoluted" pretty well nails it.

The very simple plate or your (insert appropriate DIR approved adjective here) arguments? How on earth can you condemn something you have never seen? Or ever used? Whoa... I forgot Rule #2...

BTW, I really can see the value in attacking other ideas so relentlessly even when you contradict yourself. This was sorta fun! Ya gotta love Rule #2!!!