Not Feeling Well? New Hand signal.

[boulderjohn]

Thank you for comments

AGAIN, are about 200 agencies, organizations, federations, clubs, etc teach scuba worldwide, all have various hand signals

Now point forgotten is large number of books, popular books also "teach" scuba

No standardization in books either So many say concern standadized, when not!

When you understand why confusion then some here can have respectable conversation, till then no standardization, not possible to have common ground, understand this fact

It would help your cause if you gave some examples.

With all that wide, wide variety, you should have no trouble providing examples of agencies, federations, and books that teach the most common hand signals differently. I will list some of the most common hand signals taught by agencies that include PADI, SSI, SDI, and NAUI. All those agencies teach the following signals the same. Please give specific examples of agencies, federations, and books that teach them differently.

1. OK (close by)
2. OK (surface--from a distance)
3. Not OK; something's wrong
4. Go up; ascend
5. Go down; descend
6. Out of air
7. Low on air
8. Share air; buddy breathe
9. Distress; need help (surface signal)

 

[tursiops]

It would help your cause if you gave some examples.

With all that wide, wide variety, you should have no trouble providing examples of agencies, federations, and books that teach the most common hand signals differently. I will list some of the most common hand signals taught by agencies that include PADI, SSI, SDI, and NAUI. All those agencies teach the following signals the same. Please give specific examples of agencies, federations, and books that teach them differently.

1. OK (close by)
2. OK (surface--from a distance)
3. Not OK; something's wrong
4. Go up; ascend
5. Go down; descend
6. Out of air
7. Low on air
8. Share air; buddy breathe
9. Distress; need help (surface signal)

From wrstc.com we have these signals, agreed to by the five member agencies and used by many others.

 

[boulderjohn]

From wrstc.com we have these signals, agreed to by the five member agencies and used by many others.

Except the list of member agencies has grown and now also includes IANTD, NAUI, RAID. PDIC SNSI, NASE, PSS, ACUC, and RSTC Japan.

I have the list of NACD and NSS-CDS signals on my desk right now, and they use the same signals, except, of course, the cave diving organizations don't use the surface signals a whole lot, and the have to do all signals with one hand because they have to shine a light on the signal.

That will make Chris Dee's job easier, since he doesn't have to check with any of those agencies to find all the ones that are teaching different hand signals and confusing everyone.

 

[divad]

"DAN Dispatch: New Hand Signal Communicates Illness"​

DAN Dispatch: New Hand Signal Communicates Illness

Divers learn in training to avoid diving when ill, but sometimes people become ill during a dive.

dan.org

(Did a search, couldn't find any references to this. From DAN that is.)


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Signal appears to be the standard "oopsie/poopsie" ....will you help me? I just want to get out of here."

 

[billgraham]

Always thought some-thing-wrong was holding a fist with thumb and little finger outstretched and waggling the hand

Why does this need a new hand signal to confuse everyone?

Worse still, your rotating signalling hand could catch on your snorkel and knock your mask off...

That's the Shaka, brah! If you put your hand out flat with your fingers spread and waggle it back and forth, that's "something's not quite right", like when someone asks you how the mediocre restaurant was, "ehhhh, not so great". If you point to what hurts and do that, it's pretty understandable.

 

[boulderjohn]

That's the Shaka, brah! If you put your hand out flat with your fingers spread and waggle it back and forth, that's "something's not quite right", like when someone asks you how the mediocre restaurant was, "ehhhh, not so great". If you point to what hurts and do that, it's pretty understandable.

I don't know how I missed this earlier. billgraham is correct. Waggling the first with the thumb and pinky finger extended is absolutely NOT the signal that something is wrong. It isn't even a scuba signal, although it has become common in scuba. It actually means the OPPOSITE of something being wrong. You often see people giving it while being videotaped during a dive, meaning "things are cool." It is a signal that comes from the surfing culture.

Shaka sign - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[billgraham]

I don't know how I missed this earlier. billgraham is correct. Waggling the first with the thumb and pinky finger extended is absolutely NOT the signal that something is wrong. It isn't even a scuba signal, although it has become common in scuba. It actually means the OPPOSITE of something being wrong. You often see people giving it while being videotaped during a dive, meaning "things are cool." It is a signal that comes from the surfing culture.

Shaka sign - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's a breaking wave.

 

[billgraham]

I'm dating myself with this one, but this is what I was trying to explain!

 

[Pressurehead]

I have seen this used by visiting divers , a family of 4 divers from the USA and a Japanese diver all doing this 'Shaka' thing on Heron Island GBR this year, and a young Japanese PADI instructors I dived with last month [ the local boat buddied him up with the crusty old diver] .
I just did it back to them , "this is cool" I thought it meant.

I don't know how I missed this earlier. billgraham is correct. Waggling the first with the thumb and pinky finger extended is absolutely NOT the signal that something is wrong. It isn't even a scuba signal, although it has become common in scuba. It actually means the OPPOSITE of something being wrong. You often see people giving it while being videotaped during a dive, meaning "things are cool." It is a signal that comes from the surfing culture.

 

[EFX]

I don't know how I missed this earlier. billgraham is correct. Waggling the first with the thumb and pinky finger extended is absolutely NOT the signal that something is wrong. It isn't even a scuba signal, although it has become common in scuba. It actually means the OPPOSITE of something being wrong. You often see people giving it while being videotaped during a dive, meaning "things are cool." It is a signal that comes from the surfing culture.

Shaka sign - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Great! Now we have another useless signal. You know what's cool? Not diving with cool people.