(No) Oil in the Keys

[Jax]

do we beleive this? Do we think that the offcials know the truth? For one month BP and the federal governement have deliberately lied about the spill, They have said that it was leaking ata rate of less than 10% of the actual amount. they have said 5,000 bpd while scientists have said 70,000 or more. Yesterday they said the small siphon pipe was sucking 2,000 bpd (now we KNOW that if a little 6-inch pipe can deliver 2,000 then the 21-inch pipe is blowing out a lot more than 5,000 bpd. TODAY they admit that the 6-inch pipe is delivering 5,000 bpd!!! and they admit the release is far greater, but BP won't specualte on the amount.

If they have lied for a month about the rate of input, what validity do their predictions of environmental impacts have ?????

I certainly wouldn't be making any plans to head for the keys on Memorial day weekend!

BP Slick: BP Slick... Burn at THE SOURCE

Care to elaborate on who "they" are, what scientists from what institute, and just who or what makes "bpoilslick.blogspot" an authoritative source? Enquiring minds want to know.

 

[dumpsterDiver]

Care to elaborate on who "they" are, what scientists from what institute, and just who or what makes "bpoilslick.blogspot" an authoritative source? Enquiring minds want to know.

You apparently didn't watch the video. It just shows a little of what is happening now. If you have not heard that the scientists have been reporting that the leak rate is 10 times higher, then you have not been watching the news. Don't be stupid.. the 6-inch pipe is sucking up 5,000 bpd per BP own statements

 

[Scott L]

You apparently didn't watch the video. It just shows a little of what is happening now. If you have not heard that the scientists have been reporting that the leak rate is 10 times higher, then you have not been watching the news. Don't be stupid.. the 6-inch pipe is sucking up 5,000 bpd per BP own statements

The wing nuts who created the blog could not even spell Dick Cheney's name correctly ("Chaney did it!")...

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[Jax]

You apparently didn't watch the video. It just shows a little of what is happening now. If you have not heard that the scientists have been reporting that the leak rate is 10 times higher, then you have not been watching the news. Don't be stupid.. the 6-inch pipe is sucking up 5,000 bpd per BP own statements

tsk, now, don't be calling names.

I do watch the news, with a cynical filter, and have noticed they happily do not cite their authoritive sources, unless it's some greenpeace, liberal-leaning, mofo that supported the manipulated data of global warming.

So, sucking up 5k barrels per day? all pure oil? Oil and salt water? what is the 'real' number and how did "they" arrive at it?

How about this: I can say it's spewing 10 barrels per day. Now y'all non-critical thinking mindless sponges out there can run out and say "a government official said it is spewing 10 bpd".

I refuse to be manipulated by the spin of media, but sort through the BS chaff and collect the wheat.

 

[Scott L]

tsk, now, don't be calling names.

How about this: I can say it's spewing 10 barrels per day. Now y'all non-critical thinking mindless sponges out there can run out and say "a government official said it is spewing 10 bpd".

I simply took a swipe at the blog creators for showing a MSNBC rant that Dick Cheney may have relaxed BOP standards in closed door meeting in the past. I wasn't referring to posters here as mindless sponges.

I do watch the news, with a cynical filter, and have noticed they happily do not cite their authoritative sources, unless it's some greenpeace, liberal-leaning, mofo that supported the manipulated data of global warming.

This terrible incident makes me sick to my stomach but I have to say I am enjoying the political pickle the administration is in after just having given his nod for more offshore drilling. By the way, the administration has been in office for 14 months. Plenty of time to have initiate a change of policy if standards were in fact relaxed in the past.

Obama to Open Offshore Areas to Oil Drilling for First Time - NYTimes.com

 

[Jax]

I simply took a swipe at the blog creators for showing a MSNBC rant that Dick Cheney may have relaxed BOP standards in closed door meeting in the past. I wasn't referring to posters here as mindless sponges.

This terrible incident makes me sick to my stomach but I have to say I am enjoying the political pickle the administration is in after just having given his nod for more offshore drilling. By the way, the administration has been in office for 14 months. Plenty of time to have initiate a change of policy if standards were in fact relaxed in the past.

Obama to Open Offshore Areas to Oil Drilling for First Time - NYTimes.com

Sorry, Val, I wasn't referring to your post. I screwed up and hit a quick reply instead of quoting. Your post hit while I was writing. I was referring to the populace that blindly accepts today's version of 'yellow journalism'.

 

[Scott L]

Sorry, Val, I wasn't referring to your post. I screwed up and hit a quick reply instead of quoting. Your post hit while I was writing. I was referring to the populace that blindly accepts today's version of 'yellow journalism'.

No offence taken whatsoever as I am well know for being on the other side of the political spectrum..

 

[deeper thoughts]

Oil threat to the Keys uncertain
Satellite imagery from today's pass of NASA's Terra satellite and the European Envisat satellite were inconclusive as to the presence of oil in the Loop Current. It is likely that the oil has dispersed significantly over the 500-mile course it has taken from the site of the Deepwater Horizon blowout. I expect some oil is close to completing the full loop of the Loop Current and is now headed east towards the Keys, as depicted in the "Uncertainty" area in the latest NOAA 72-hour offshore trajectory forecast. If this estimate is correct, the Keys could see oil as early as Wednesday. However, this is not a sure thing. As I discussed in my post Wednesday, the Loop Current is very unstable right now, and is ready to cut off into a giant clockwise-rotating eddy, an event that occurs every 6 - 11 months. This event could occur today or tomorrow, in which case the ribbon of southwestward-moving oil would turn due west and then north, eventually winding up back near the site of the Deepwater Horizon blowout. Roffer's Ocean Fishing Forecast Service has a nice discussion on the possibility of the Loop Current cutting off into a Loop Current Eddy, and they note in today's discussion that there appears to be a developing eastward flow of water directly from the Yucatan Peninsula to the Florida Keys. Keep in mind, though, that during the first month that a Loop Current Eddy forms, it exchanges a considerable amount of water with the Loop Current. Even if a Loop Current Eddy forms today, I still expect we will see some oil make the turn eastward and flow past the Florida Keys by Wednesday. My guess is that the oil will be too thin and scattered to cause significant problems in the Keys, but there is great uncertainty on this.

Dr Jeff Masters today

 

[Jax]

Wonder how much a meterologist knows about the dissolution of oil in water. Do we have any chemical engineers that do this work?

Jeffrey Masters PhD. : Weather Underground

Jeff Masters grew up in suburban Detroit, and attended the University of Michigan, where he received his B.S. and M.S. degrees in Meteorology in 1982 and 1983, respectively. While working on his Masters degree, he participated in field programs studying acid rain in the Northeast U.S. and air pollution in the Detroit area.

In 1986, he took a position teaching weather forecasting to undergraduates at SUNY Brockport in New York, then later that year moved to Miami to join the Hurricane Hunters as a flight meteorologist for NOAA's Aircraft Operations Center. You can see him on the 1988 PBS documentary NOVA show titled "Hurricane!", flying into Hurricane Gilbert, the strongest hurricane ever observed in the Atlantic at that time. He co-authored several technical papers on wind measurement from aircraft during his four years flying with the Hurricane Hunters.

After nearly getting killed flying into Hurricane Hugo, Jeff left the Hurricane Hunters in 1990 to pursue a Ph.D. degree in air pollution meteorology from the University of Michigan. His 1997 Ph.D. dissertation was titled "Vertical Transport of Carbon Monoxide by Wintertime Mid-latitude Cyclones." The University of Michigan College of Engineering awarded him their 2006 Merit Award as the Alumnus of the year from their Atmospheric, Oceanic, and Space Sciences Department, and Jeff remains active with the Department, offering guest lectures on hurricanes, and managing a Weather Underground undergraduate scholarship program.

While working on his Ph.D., he co-founded The Weather Underground, Inc. in 1995. He wrote much of the software that ingests and formats the raw NWS data used on the website, and created most of the imagery on the tropical page. Jeff currently serves as Director of Meteorology and on the Board of Directors for the company.

 

[grubbyrat]

The wife and I just returned from a week onboard the Juliet in the Dry Tortugas and did not see any oil in the water nor at Fort Jefferson. We dove from 5/16 until 5/21 in several wideley seperated areas.