Level of Instruction

[Uncle Pug]

MechDiver once bubbled...
I'll believe this absurdity when I see an independant video showing exactly that. I can't think of enough words to decribe this. What these people go to to prove to the rest of us how great they are...or think they are.

I don't think these people even know you exist MechDiver... much less care to impress you with how great they are.

But say... if you want to see it first hand for yourself.... (and you have no need for a video.... you live right here where it is happening) check out a BOW class at either 5thDimension - Issaquah or Kent.

 

[MikeFerrara]

Hmmm...
If there is one thing I've learned from my time as an instructor (I have tought things besides diving) is that I don't know and have not thought of everything. In fact, much of what I once thought of as fact was nonsense. When it comes to teaching I try to keep an open mind. I, for one, would very much like to see it because I am not too proud to steal what I can. Some of my best ideas are not mine at all. My students don't seem to care where I learn the stuff.

 

[Butch103]

And I am only asking to give me some idea how this works....GUE having bouyant divers before they ever hit the water. Is this right ??....or are you saying before the open water ??...How do they get the weighting close and the students know how much air to put in their BCs...???? I just don't know how they will instinctively know these things. It takes a lot of us divers at least a few dives to get it even close........:boom: :boom:

 

[O-ring]

or are you saying before the open water ??...How do they get the weighting close and the students know how much air to put in their BCs...????

Although I may be wrong....I don't know much about their OW class and we were in open water in DIRF. I would definitely go and check it out if I lived up there though...

When GUE actually starts their OW course, I doubt you will see the same caliber of students enrolling in it. So that guy that you had in your class that couldn't seem to "get it" won't be in the GUE class or will be weeded out the first day (hypothetical example).

 

[landlocked]

Butch103 once bubbled...
And I am only asking to give me some idea how this works....GUE having bouyant divers before they ever hit the water. Is this right ??....or are you saying before the open water ??...How do they get the weighting close and the students know how much air to put in their BCs...???? I just don't know how they will instinctively know these things. It takes a lot of us divers at least a few dives to get it even close........:boom: :boom:

What if instead of putting everyone on the bottom and then later trying to get them to rise to the occassion, you float them on the surface, in the shallow end, and teach them how to sink at will? No air in the BC. (I only add air to the bc to compensate for suit compression or to rest on the surface before or between dives. If I need to use the BC any other time, doesn't that mean that I am overweighted?) Just a thought.

 

[Uncle Pug]

Butch103 once bubbled...
And I am only asking to give me some idea how this works....GUE having bouyant divers before they ever hit the water.

SidneyDiver was the one who said "on their very first time in Scuba Gear, doing these skills in the pool without touching the bottom..." extrapolating what DD was trying to say.

Better to say:

"They won't be learning skills on the bottom... from the git go they will be learning to stay off the bottom."

 

[Butch103]

O-ring once bubbled...


When GUE actually starts their OW course, I doubt you will see the same caliber of students enrolling in it. So that guy that you had in your class that couldn't seem to "get it" won't be in the GUE class or will be weeded out the first day (hypothetical example).

When some smuck comes in off the street to sign up for a BOW course they have little or no idea on who GUE/PADI/NAUI/SSI etc are and most likely don't care. So tell me what caliber of student are you talking about...the end product or the person walking thru the front door uninformed ???? Unfortunately you got my back up insinuate that any GUE dive instructor can tell any better than another agency instructor whom will make better diver, by just looking at them as they walk in the door.......DIR?GUE may ( and I say may ) be a better diving system ( I am not trained so I cannot comment yea or nay) but their instructors are not eh amazing kreskin.............:boom:

 

[Butch103]

that makes far more sense.......:boom:

 

[Uncle Pug]

This was some time ago... DIRf wasn't even DIRf and GUE BOW wasn't even a glimmer...

Four of my friends and I were taking what at the time was an introduction to DIR for recreational divers.

I remember during our pool session with Andrew... one of the other instructors from 5thD had his OW class in the pool... I was amazed to see what they were learning from the beginning!

Of our group two of us were trained public safety divers, one was a commercial harvest diver and the other two were loooong time sport divers. WE didn't have the buoyancy control these newbies were already learning.

I hope the video of that pool session has disappeared

 

[MechDiver]

Uncle Pug once bubbled...

I don't think these people even know you exist MechDiver... much less care to impress you with how great they are.

But say... if you want to see it first hand for yourself.... (and you have no need for a video.... you live right here where it is happening) check out a BOW class at either 5thDimension - Issaquah or Kent.

I don't do OW anymore, nor am I interested in 5thD. Maybe they don't care to impress me, or anyone else, but some of you sure try.

I have no problem with GUE as I don't feel I need their permission to dive.

My statement stands.