Level of Instruction

[MikeFerrara]

detroit diver once bubbled...


But what they'll do is weed out the folks from day one. I'm guessing they'll do that with swimming requirements and medical forms that will eliminate potentially hazardous divers.

Oh, don't tell me that PADI has swim requirements-those are a joke. Only the dead will not pass.

Good health and fitness are important to be sure. However to weed divers out based on this alone is bunk. Diving is a head game boys and girls. Beyond being reasonable healthy, fit and comfy in the water it is what is in the mind that counts. I have seen this proven over and over again. My bet is that JJ has seen this also.

any of you ever fight. I am a little guy and always did really well. Brains and skill make up for all manner of deficiencies in size and strength.

BTW, I am holding the files of a good many students who never passed the PADI swim test and still are not certified.

I once new a horse trainer that only excepted champion material. Guess what he trained many champions. Guess what he had to do very little it sure makes the training process easier.

 

[MikeFerrara]

bwerb once bubbled...
I had a great OW class (never swam in a pool at all, everything was in the ocean, 20', surge, swell on the surface etc.)

I had a great AOW class (limited vis, cold water, drysuit).


I want more than anything else to have peak buoyancy skills and completely efficient movement whenever I am in the water. Overall, I think I'm doing really good and swim without silting, touching the bottom etc. Here's where I have difficulties though, I don't own my own drysuit, weights or BCD yet. Everytime I go out it is like starting over with figuring out where the trim and buoyancy of "today's" set-up is.

For all you instructors out there, how is best to dive efficiently within these parameters, I can't very well spend 20 minutes each dive adding and replacing weights and moving them around. I just see this as a real handicap until I own my own gear. Thoughts?

you need your own gear.

 

[Butch103]

your response to DD is what I couldn't put into words at the moment...........DD I don't dispute that the GUE/DIR system has good ideaas, but no way in hell you can convince me it is the only way and GUE/DIR produces perfect divers all the time blah blah blah...................................:boom:

 

[detroit diver]

Butch103 once bubbled...
your response to DD is what I couldn't put into words at the moment...........DD I don't dispute that the GUE/DIR system has good ideaas, but no way in hell you can convince me it is the only way and GUE/DIR produces perfect divers all the time blah blah blah...................................:boom:

I never used the word "perfect" so don't put words in my mouth.

I do think that they produce a higher quality diver because of the higher standards and requirements that they require.

 

[O-ring]

any of you ever fight. I am a little guy and always did really well. Brains and skill make up for all manner of deficiencies in size and strength.

All the time... You know what also makes a HUGE difference in a fight besides skill and brains? Training... Take someone who is trained to fight....doesn't matter what art/form and they already have a huge advantage walking into an altercation. Same with divers...a well trained diver has an advantage over a poorly trained/untrained one.

I think GUE training is very good...

 

[Uncle Pug]

O-ring once bubbled...
You know what also makes a HUGE difference in a fight besides skill and brains? Training.

If your enemy becomes your friend he fights for you.

 

[detroit diver]

heres a post from a student from last weeks DIRF class. I received her permission to re-post it here.

Thanks so much for all of your efforts for the DIRF
class this weekend!! It was an awesome experience. I
can't fathom how much I truely needed this training
and increased level of understanding of what can
really happen during ANY dive.

If anyone has an opportunity to attend this class GO
FOR IT!!! It can (hopefully) change everything you
ever thought about what you could handle and give you
the foundation to build upon to become a safer diver
and better dive buddy.

The instructors RJ, Sonya, and James from 5thD were
phenomenal! Even though I was very anxious they did
everything possible to make the class a positive and
rewarding learning experience. That, and they are
really cool people. Their dedication to every aspect
of the holistic DIR system and the GUE mission has
left a big impression on my outlook on diving and the
environment which we affect.

I will try to process my thoughts about the experience
and post a more comprehensive class review. Right now
I'm still coming down from a significant state of awe.

Becki

 

[MikeFerrara]

O-ring once bubbled...

All the time... You know what also makes a HUGE difference in a fight besides skill and brains? Training... Take someone who is trained to fight....doesn't matter what art/form and they already have a huge advantage walking into an altercation. Same with divers...a well trained diver has an advantage over a poorly trained/untrained one.

I think GUE training is very good...

The training, of course is, in part, where the skill comes from.

UP is correct also, my point was, of course, to emphisize the mental aspect of the activity.

 

[MikeFerrara]

detroit diver,

I'm glad she had a good class. There may be some anti-DIR people here but you should not conclude from my posts that I am ant-DIR. I do at times, though, advocate methods other than DIR.

 

[detroit diver]

Mike,

It wasn't you that the comment was meant for! From your posts, I know where you're coming from and know that you know the difference. We don't always agree, but, hey, that's life!