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Zeagle BC's can be changed after purchase. The waist panel, shoulder straps, wing are all interchangeable. If I loose weight (yea right) after going through the 18+ inches of adjustment I will just call Zeagle and order another waist panel. They make great BC's in addition to BP & Wing's, even in Titanium!

Scubapro makes XXL size in some of their BC's. LDS should be able to get these also.

I highly recommend a Ranger from Zeagle.

You have options.
 
smoritz0370:
Better go try that wetsuit on. You WILL need it.

actually, im buying one.. I figured if anything the wetsuit i should buy that way it fits right, no issues with being too tight or loose, Norbert is ordering in one for me im going to try it on in a couple of days when he gets it in.

Michael
 
Michael - congrats on your efforts and success at losing the weight.

Here is my 2 psi:
I have dropped 42 lbs in the past few months and today I noticed for the first time that my BPW was a bit loose on me. It will be very easy to correct this problem and since I have another 15-20 #'s to go, I'll likely have to do it again in another month. I won't have to buy new gear which is a nice feeling.

As to your wetsuit - frankly I would hold off on buying one. See if you can't fit into the rental one or see if the other shop has one for your OW dives. You seem pretty intent on losing the weight and judging by your success so far, then you will. If you drop another 80 lbs by next year, you will need a new suit. With a wetsuit you want it to conform to your body and have only a small layer of water between your suit and your body. It really should fit like a glove. If you not, you will lose your thermal protection. You really don't want water sloshing around in it.

Good luck and great effort!
 
Definitely go with a Backplate and wings. It only costs about 350 for a decent entire setup, you can customize it EXACTLY to your body size, as well as just readjust the harness as you lose more weight. You are GUARANTEED that it will fit you perfectly.

With regards to getting certified in a BP/W it should be no problem at all. I have never heard of someone having to do it in a jacket BC.

On the contrary, a BP/W does NOT eliminate the need for a weightbelt. It may help distribute some of the weight off your hips, but if you need more weight, a weightbelt should be needed. NEVER add weight to the harness webbing as ditchable weight as it will require you to unbuckle your only source of buoyancy which could have deadly consequences in an OOA.

Lastly, I would tell the shop that is trying to charge you $1000 for a BC to go to hell and would never step foot in it again. This is typical LDS snobbery and taking advantages of LDS "loyalty" at its finest. Don't waste your time or money at that shop.
 
I would recomend you try on the rental gear they have with the cumberbun extension and see how it fits.
I use an extension and I dont have any problems. 6'2" 330 lbs.
But the wet suit is something I would wait on if they have one that fits you comfortably. Like I said try it on. If you are going to loose your weight a large wet suite that doesn't fit is a waist of money.
You also need to trust your dive shop, if you are not comfortable with them it might hinder you in diving in the future.

Jason
 
Michael_Lambert:
actually, im buying one.. I figured if anything the wetsuit i should buy that way it fits right, no issues with being too tight or loose, Norbert is ordering in one for me im going to try it on in a couple of days when he gets it in.

Michael

The other nice thing about going with a custom wetsuit is that you have an avenue for alterations as you drop weight. Liquidfit does the first round free! No need to be tight or loose.

Pete
 
MAK52580:
Definitely go with a Backplate and wings. It only costs about 350 for a decent entire setup, you can customize it EXACTLY to your body size, as well as just readjust the harness as you lose more weight. You are GUARANTEED that it will fit you perfectly.

With regards to getting certified in a BP/W it should be no problem at all. I have never heard of someone having to do it in a jacket BC.

On the contrary, a BP/W does NOT eliminate the need for a weightbelt. It may help distribute some of the weight off your hips, but if you need more weight, a weightbelt should be needed. NEVER add weight to the harness webbing as ditchable weight as it will require you to unbuckle your only source of buoyancy which could have deadly consequences in an OOA.

Lastly, I would tell the shop that is trying to charge you $1000 for a BC to go to hell and would never step foot in it again. This is typical LDS snobbery and taking advantages of LDS "loyalty" at its finest. Don't waste your time or money at that shop.


You need to be careful when listing prices on here. If you look, the person posting the original message is in Canada. Things can be more expensive here especially if it comes from other places. The Zeagle BCs are made in the US (that is the $1000 BC we are discussing here), the Canadian distributor is in Alberta (Calgary I believe) and the LDS is just north of Toronto. So the BC has to go from Florida across the Canadian border and most of the way across the continent west then back most of the way east. There will be duty on it and conversion to Canadian dollars. I have seen Zeagles ranging anywhere from $800 to $1000 here depending on model and what kind of deal I can get from the LDS.

As a comparison to your $350 all inclusive BP/W. Typically a backplate with harness already setup on it runs around $200-250 with the wing running between $350-500. All prices listed are in Canadian dollars.

He could always buy online, but I don't think it would be as cheap as it is made out to be. He would have to pay shipping, duty and a fee for converting CDN currency to US currency and he would be faced with the expense and time delay associated with sending it back to the US for any warranty work should the need arise. As he is new to diving he would also be faced with trying to setup a BP/W for the first time without the help of the LDS. While not impossible it would certainly run smoother the first time around if he had the help of someone who knew how to do it.

I also believe Michael mentioned in an earlier post that the LDS he has signed up to do the course with (and already paid the fee to) has said that he cannot do his course in a BP/W. This is a different LDS than the one that brought up the $1000 BC.
 
Correct,

Where im looking to buy the BCD is from a different LDS, this is the LDS i'm looking to contiune my education once i get the OW.. As for the cost... the owner has taken me through all the options and has been very fair on pricing.. and where the backplate is slightly cheaper i prefer the BCD, Like he has explianed no matter which one i choose they are more than willing to give me a hand with it take a couple of pool course to learn how to use it correctly..

But $1000 for a decent BCD is not uncommon up here and i have been looking, now ofcourse that $1000 also included the custom work that would need to be done to the BCD, The custom Cumberbon and straps..

As for buying online, sure i save some money.. but its soo much more work if i need something fixed, or replaced.. i have boughten too much online and had it arrive damaged or incorrect and then the hassels of replaceing or repair.. just ends up costing me more in shipping fees!

I trust the LDS here in richmond hill, he has been truthful and honest even when i might have hurt!..
 
Michael_Lambert:
Correct,

Where im looking to buy the BCD is from a different LDS, this is the LDS i'm looking to contiune my education once i get the OW.. As for the cost... the owner has taken me through all the options and has been very fair on pricing.. and where the backplate is slightly cheaper i prefer the BCD, Like he has explianed no matter which one i choose they are more than willing to give me a hand with it take a couple of pool course to learn how to use it correctly..

But $1000 for a decent BCD is not uncommon up here and i have been looking, now ofcourse that $1000 also included the custom work that would need to be done to the BCD, The custom Cumberbon and straps..

As for buying online, sure i save some money.. but its soo much more work if i need something fixed, or replaced.. i have boughten too much online and had it arrive damaged or incorrect and then the hassels of replaceing or repair.. just ends up costing me more in shipping fees!

I trust the LDS here in richmond hill, he has been truthful and honest even when i might have hurt!..

It sounds like you have found a trusted resource, that's a valuable relationship, cultivate it.

Pete
 
Michael, you shouldn't be purchasing any equipment, wetsuit or BCD, until you have at least found out if you can dive or like diving. After you get in the water, there may be a physical problem that prevents you from not only just diving, but being comfortable diving---who takes up a sport that makes them miserable? I'm a big guy too and have also outfitted my teenage grandaughter, there are similar problems. She is small but is growing, you are large and shrinking. Buying a wetsuit that you have to replace every six months is expensive, as is buying a BCD that won't fit or requires extensive refitting. At least use rental gear for the first couple of pool sessions to determine if you want/can do this. I know of several students who never came back after their first time underwater---just in the pool, for physical and personal reasons.

My experience with recreational BCDs was negative, I went through three in the first year I was diving----expensive. I read about backplate/wings and found a dive shop familiar with them and they helped me get set up----I'll never go back. They are easily and cheaply re-sizable and you have options with them BCDs don't offer.

Critical to your situation is going to be weight distribution and the amount of weight you will have to carry, given your size and the amount of neoprene you will have to wear to stay warm. I currently use a 9 pound backplate with a 6 pound single tank adapter, this coupled with my steel tank only requires ten pounds of ditachable weight on my weight integrated BP belt. Having just converted to a drysuit, I'm now looking at transferring my harness to a 12 or 15 pound backplate as I had to bump up my wieght a little for the drysuit. I have also successfully used two 9 pound backplates bolted together in the past when I had a two piece wetsuit that was very bouyant.

My daughter is a big girl, her instructor had her certify with a BCD and a 40 pound weight belt doing shore dives---she was miserable. I built her a BP wing and she uses the same configuration I do and she now loves diving. There are several weight pouch designs that fit on BP wing belts, being round like we are---you will hate a weight belt. Also consider mounting weight in pouches on the top strap of your tank to help balance your load, this can also be done with a BCD and fairly cheaply.

My grandaughter was too small for rental suits---they fit, but badly. We finally bought her a Henderson hyperstretch and it stretches enough that it still fits her 1.5 years later. She also dives a BP wing but uses no weighted single tank adapter, and six pounds on ditchable weight in her pockets, along with a steel tank. Steel tanks can also help with your weighting situation as they aren't bouyant.

You would really feel bad if you made substantial investments in equipment only to find out you don't like diving. By the way, I'm an avid underwater photographer, if you think scuba gear is expensive wait till you look into the underwater photography stuff. Sorry this got so long---but LDS' sometimes don't do the right thing.
 

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