Hybrid Rec/Tech Long Hose Setup?

[RobPNW]

The first part is what I am confused on. The hose routing from your first stage to your waist: does in go in front of your shoulder and follow the harness strap, or does it go behind your shoulder, following your wing?

The latter, standard long hose routing. Basically, imagine a standard long hose setup with a backup that's routed more like an octo, but instead of being clipped off somewhere, it would hang from a necklace and be used as your backup and still do primary donate. Despite all the beatings, I'm just throwing an idea out for discussion, and I'll probably try it out to see what I think in the water. That doesn't necessarily mean I will abandonee the accepted long hose standard setup. I'll probably end up just playing with the short backup hose lengths as some have suggested.

 

[RobPNW]

Is one on one with an instructor possible? Would a local dive shop allow you to tag along with a class? I’ve done that before. Some shops may not allow you in the pool without a buddy unless you’re solo certified (I’ve encountered that).

I may pursue that route, Marie. Not take a class but pay a small fee and pick a corner of the pool to do my thing. Thanks for the suggestion. I did the rescue diver training. Seems to me that should be enough but you never know.

 

[rob.mwpropane]

I may pursue that route, Marie. Not take a class but pay a small fee and pick a corner of the pool to do my thing. Thanks for the suggestion. I did the rescue diver training. Seems to me that should be enough but you never know.

Maybe find a private pool? I know multiple people have told me I can use their pools.. and I have before I found a different spot with better depths.

 

[tursiops]

Swimming pool, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha the effort of putting all our crap on, then jumping into a swimming pool
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
driving to the swimming pool carrying your stuff into the swimming pool and jumping in, said swimming pool
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
unless you are a board certified carded swimming pool technician ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
or the grass filled lake, snagged up river or stinking quarry is frozen ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

with all the legitimate swimming pool people, that don't want you anywhere near the place
with all your junk, splashing and swimming and wondering what is wrong with that diver dude

and all that chlorine ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Presumably you live near a diving site. Many people do not.

 

[Marie13]

I may pursue that route, Marie. Not take a class but pay a small fee and pick a corner of the pool to do my thing. Thanks for the suggestion. I did the rescue diver training. Seems to me that should be enough but you never know.

Solo and rescue are two totally different animals.

 

[Marie13]

It’s the insurance. I have an instructor friend who has let me in on several winter pool sessions in the past. I asked and he doesn’t care if I’m on my CCR so he’s going to let me know when he has pool sessions. Sometimes he practices his own stuff.

ETA: I’m solo certified and full cave. I was always diving sidemount in the pool.

Rescue cert has nothing at all with being a competent solo diver.

 

[Wibble]

That's just dumb... we've all been swimming just fine in these so called pools for quite some time with very little incident, lol. Those kinds of shops are the one's I really try to steer clear from.

Their pool, their rules.

Can see why they don't approve of "solo" diving in pools; any accident is on them.

I may pursue that route, Marie. Not take a class but pay a small fee and pick a corner of the pool to do my thing. Thanks for the suggestion. I did the rescue diver training. Seems to me that should be enough but you never know.

As @Marie13 said, solo and rescue are very different animals.

The minimum entry requirement for Solo Diver is you've a minimum of 100 dives logged and "Demonstrate mature and sound judgment concerning dive planning and execution". Rescue Diver doesn't have any requirements beyond Open Water.

 

[rob.mwpropane]

Their pool, their rules.

Can see why they don't approve of "solo" diving in pools; any accident is on them.

Here locally most if not all dive shops do not have their own pools.. they piggyback on public pools. Also here in the states if someone got hurt, solo card or not, everyone is getting sued.. we're just dumb like that.

 

[Lorenzoid]

I'm going to try both ways regardless to see which I like more.

Ding ding--we have a winner. But please give yourself time to get used to each configuration before deciding. The short backup hose on a necklace DOES tend to tug at the mouth from the side a bit, but if it's used the way it was intended it won't be in your mouth longer than the time it takes you to deal with whatever problem caused you to switch regulators; typically, the time it takes you to ascend and end the dive. A very slightly annoying tugging is going to be the least of what's going through my mind as I deal with whatever the problem was. The short backup hose is so short because it should be as unobtrusive as possible so long as the dive is proceeding normally--which is the vast majority of the time.

 

[tursiops]

Rescue Diver doesn't have any requirements beyond Open Water.

False. Easy to check before posting a falsehood like this.