Hybrid Rec/Tech Long Hose Setup?

[happy-diver]

Yeah keep the mouthpiece fixing completely independent of the bungee thing and any other malarkey

Hey why don't you take the garden hose and wash your gear during the dive as the water there is free

 

[BoltSnap]

I don't think there was much misunderstanding.
The important thing is not how it works when nothing is going wrong.....it is much more important how it works when things are going sideways...which is kinda hard to test, and that's when the (often hard-earned0 experience of others counts the most.

One of the very rare occasions where I agree with @tursiops 100%. That should mean something to the OP

 

[rob.mwpropane]

Not sure where the two hose confusion comes to play. If I donate my long hose, I take it out of my mouth and from around my head and extend it to the other diver. The other routes under my arm pit up to the necklace and isn't under the cannister at all. If anything, having both not routed over my shoulder keeps them more apart.

I think there's a misunderstanding here.. not at all trying to beat a dead horse, you can dive however you want.. but I've never seen the long hose over the shoulder, always routed under.

So when you're describing what you want to try all of us are picturing 2 hoses under the shoulder side by side.. eventually getting all twisted up... does that make sense?

At the end of the day you can dive however you want. I don't think it's any of our intentions to discourage you from doing something different... just trying to understand wtf is going on here, lol.

 

[tursiops]

I think there's a misunderstanding here.. not at all trying to beat a dead horse, you can dive however you want.. but I've never seen the long hose over the shoulder, always routed under.

So when you're describing what you want to try all of us are picturing 2 hoses under the shoulder side by side.. eventually getting all twisted up... does that make sense?

At the end of the day you can dive however you want. I don't think it's any of our intentions to discourage you from doing something different... just trying to understand wtf is going on here, lol.

I'm perfectly happy trying to discourage someone from trying something with known or likely faults; they probably need to know that the path they propose is fraught with problems. The only thing worse than reinventing the wheel is reinventing one that doesn't turn.

 

[RobPNW]

I think there's a misunderstanding here.. not at all trying to beat a dead horse, you can dive however you want.. but I've never seen the long hose over the shoulder, always routed under.

So when you're describing what you want to try all of us are picturing 2 hoses under the shoulder side by side.. eventually getting all twisted up... does that make sense?

At the end of the day you can dive however you want. I don't think it's any of our intentions to discourage you from doing something different... just trying to understand wtf is going on here, lol.

I must be the world's worst communicator. The 7' long hose would route normally down to my right hip, under my faux cannister belt stick, across the chest, around the neck, and over the right shoulder to my mouth- no change on that. I was just contemplating routing my backup reg hose under my right arm pit instead of over the shoulder and up to the necklace. One would route down to my hip and the other would be up near my arm pit. Sorry for creating such a schit storm. I'm going to try both ways regardless to see which I like more. I have all the hoses for either. Thanks the inputs.

 

[tursiops]

I must be the world's worst communicator. The 7' long hose would route normally down to my right hip, under my faux cannister belt stick, across the chest, around the neck, and over the right shoulder to my mouth- no change on that. I was just contemplating routing my backup reg hose under my right arm pit instead of over the shoulder and up to the necklace. One would route down to my hip and the other would be up near my arm pit. Sorry for creating such a schit storm. I'm going to try both ways regardless to see which I like more. I have all the hoses for either. Thanks the inputs.

Unless you are incredibly tall, that 42-inch hose that is going to be your primary is not going to be in your right armpit, but rather hang down around your cannister. you are going to try it anyway, so please report back.

 

[RobPNW]

Somewhat off topic but maybe relevant...

Question for people who use canister lights. I don't yet and was planning on securing my smaller light to my left shoulder strap D-ring. I assume you carry the light itself on the left hand. How do you route the cord from the cannister to the light?

 

[Wibble]

Somewhat off topic but maybe relevant...

Question for people who use canister lights. I don't yet and was planning on securing my smaller light to my left shoulder strap D-ring. I assume you carry the light itself on the left hand. How do you route the cord from the cannister to the light?

Cannister on RH waistbelt ('cos the LHS is the buckle).
Torch with Goodman handle in Left Hand, rarely Right Hand.
Torch cable runs across the front of the body. It's about the right length so doesn't sag too much.
Backup torch (Ammonite LED1 or LED2) under Snoopy Loops (rubber bands) on the bottom of the RH shoulder strap with boltsnap on RH chest D-ring

There's reasons for this. The LHS has stages (if using DIR); the Right hand needs to be free for emergencies, i.e. donating.

Also, the short hose to the backup regulator goes over the shoulder so it doesn't tangle with the longhose when it's all configured.

As nobody's said this yet... Why don't you do Fundies? You'd learn so much about diving.

 

[crofrog]

All to often.


Do you have any formal training in the long hose system?

 

[rob.mwpropane]

I'm perfectly happy trying to discourage someone from trying something with known or likely faults; they probably need to know that the path they propose is fraught with problems. The only thing worse than reinventing the wheel is reinventing one that doesn't turn.

When there isn't 1 iota of information out there that points to this being a good idea... well sometimes you just have to let go!

No offense OP.. I just think you're time would be better spent practicing what's tried and true than trying to, as @tursiops said.. reinvent the wheel. Get 500+ dives and then do some wheel inventing.. just my 2 bubbles.. I really think it would be better to understand what makes sense and how to apply it and then try to build onto it / make it better.

Good luck..