DIR- Generic GUE Standards Update (v 10.1)

[Matan]

Can someone explain this:

why the "=" sign? didn't see anything in the standards about it.


Matan.

 

[justinthedeeps]

Maximum depth is defined and limited by the insurance coverage of the participants and instructor(s).

1. For courses where the diving insurance carried by all participants limits coverage to 330 ft/100 m, no diving activity is to exceed this limit. The instructor(s) must also carry relevant insurance to the appropriate depth.

Who specifically insures tech/GUE/CCR divers and instructors to 100m (or 120m) depth? Is this offered under a GUE umbrella?

 

[Matan]

Who specifically insures tech/GUE/CCR divers and instructors to 100m (or 120m) depth? Is this offered under a GUE umbrella?

I think companies like DAN don't have a depth limit - also might be country specific?

Matan.

 

[Rich1280]

Can someone explain this:
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why the "=" sign? didn't see anything in the standards about it.


Matan.

I always read that as should be written as T2 <= CCR2, where CCR2 gives you the T2 equivalence for deep OC should you wan to do it. The main skill on T2 is bottle rotations and gas planning, which are both covered in CCR2.

Rich

 

[Dex~]

Can someone explain this:
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why the "=" sign? didn't see anything in the standards about it.


Matan.

CCR2 is essentially similar to Tech2; you perform all the OC skills from tech 2 in CCR2 because you need to do bailout from your maximum depth, which you still need to learn if you aren't tech2, as well as manage bottle rotation. The equal sign indicates that possessing one of these ratings satisfies the prerequisites for Cave/tech 3 or cave CCR using the configurations you are certified on.

 

[Matan]

CCR2 is essentially similar to Tech2; you perform all the OC skills from tech 2 in CCR2 because you need to do bailout from your maximum depth, which you still need to learn if you aren't tech2, as well as manage bottle rotation. The equal sign indicates that possessing one of these ratings satisfies the prerequisites for Cave/tech 3 or cave CCR using the configurations you are certified on.

and that's what I don't get.

The pre-requisite for T3 is CC2/PSCR
you can't take T3 on OC according to what I've seen.

I'm T2+CCR1 - I can't attend T3 w/o taking CCR2 (now called CCRT2).

Matan.

 

[johnkendall]

and that's what I don't get.

The pre-requisite for T3 is CC2/PSCR
you can't take T3 on OC according to what I've seen.

I'm T2+CCR1 - I can't attend T3 w/o taking CCR2 (now called CCRT2).

Matan.

CCR-T2 is not equivalent to T2+CCR1. There are a lot of CCR specific skills in the CCR-T2 class in addition to the OC skills.

The challenge with that diagram is that it is trying to simplify something that's a little complex.

The Pre-requisite for PSCR is T2 or CCRT2
The pre-requistes for T3 are PSCR or CCRT2
There is no OC T3

Thanks
John

 

[Dex~]

and that's what I don't get.

The pre-requisite for T3 is CC2/PSCR
you can't take T3 on OC according to what I've seen.

I'm T2+CCR1 - I can't attend T3 w/o taking CCR2 (now called CCRT2).

Matan.

Last year, during their Tech 3 class experiments, they allowed OC diving for tech 2 divers (on paper). However, I don't know anyone who did this, as diving to such depths with long bottom times on OC gases was impractical due to logistical costs and gas planning challenges, making CCR more feasible. Now, CCR2/PSCR certification officially is required, as diving that deep on OC is nearly impossible, giving the cost on helium and procuring it these days.

I know they conducted two classes only last year and it was on the Britannic at depths of about 120 meters.

 

[gregbenson314]

I am curious if the rec to tech upgrade for Fundies would still be an option, or people will have to retake the Fundies(Tech) for a technical rating.

According to Rich Walker in the GUE-UK facebook group, he said:

it's worth adding to this that your existing GUE qualifications will remain valid, and your pathways that you were on, for example rec pass to tech pass will remain for the forseeable future

I'm not sure how long that will be the case as that wasn't mentioned.

 

[gregbenson314]

Cordless lights are still acceptable; see page 158:

The primary light should consist of a rechargeable battery pack and be fitted with aGoodman-style light handle.

When burn time requirements create the need for an external battery pack, it should reside in a canister mounted on the diver’s right hip.

On Page 66, section 3.2.1.8 it says that a corded primary light is required for a Technical Fundamentals pass.