Question Good first rebreather for non-cave diving?

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Yeah the allowance is very nice for those international flights and I am a frequent flyer through delta (1 return flight halfway around the world does that lol). Domestic flight baggage limits are not very good in Australia in my experience. The triton is a bit interesting as a carryon option, so is the chop, but Idk where servicing is possible for either in Australia (triton has a place in Bali i believe). Backmount is the standard in marine science though I would imagine, however just having any rebreather experience would still look good on an application so I'm not sure just yet on style.
I just don't see a chestmount as being suitable for most scientific work - certainly wouldn't work for the project that I am involved with. CM is a different type of rebreather that is suitable for some things, not others.

Domestic flight baggage limits aren't great unless you have Gold or higher with Qantas (or AA so link with Qantas)
 
I just don't see a chestmount as being suitable for most scientific work - certainly wouldn't work for the project that I am involved with. CM is a different type of rebreather that is suitable for some things, not others.

Domestic flight baggage limits aren't great unless you have Gold or higher with Qantas (or AA so link with Qantas)
I’m not a CM fan but feel it would be disingenuous of me not to advocate at least trying one before you decide on a unit
 
I imagine having ccr experience would look pretty nice, and I do tech dive and would still use it for that in the future if not for work.
It would certainly help! The technical scientific diving community is pretty small, so being trained up and ready to go when projects come up would be great.
 
Second that - trying to find trimix CCR qualified archaeologists isn't easy!
I don't know about Archaeologists, but stateside a lot scientific divers go for AP EXPs.
 
No I’m saying I wouldn’t consider one..

Out of curiosity Alex, why not?
I’m also thinking about making an investment, 7 was one of the candidates, together with JJ, rEvo and AP.
Out of this thread I get that AP has a problem with the head, somewhere else on forum JJ is claimed to be dust sucker, I also read that 7 will fail auto check on the occasion… makes it helluva difficult to select the unit.
Not to mention that RB instructors as well as people diving RB’s in the Netherlands are sparse, as far as I know… which is another level of difficulty in whole process of choosing the unit.
You can DM me if you would like to keep the matter private.

Cheers
 
Out of curiosity Alex, why not?
I’m also thinking about making an investment, 7 was one of the candidates, together with JJ, rEvo and AP.
Out of this thread I get that AP has a problem with the head, somewhere else on forum JJ is claimed to be dust sucker, I also read that 7 will fail auto check on the occasion… makes it helluva difficult to select the unit.
Not to mention that RB instructors as well as people diving RB’s in the Netherlands are sparse, as far as I know… which is another level of difficulty in whole process of choosing the unit.
You can DM me if you would like to keep the matter private.

Cheers

Seven has a neat idea behind it and is a well-made machine. However, it has an exceptionally low-tolerance electronics that may lock out the unit. I, too, considered the unit but decided to go against it in favor of rEvo.
 
Out of curiosity Alex, why not?
I’m also thinking about making an investment, 7 was one of the candidates, together with JJ, rEvo and AP.
Out of this thread I get that AP has a problem with the head, somewhere else on forum JJ is claimed to be dust sucker, I also read that 7 will fail auto check on the occasion… makes it helluva difficult to select the unit.
Not to mention that RB instructors as well as people diving RB’s in the Netherlands are sparse, as far as I know… which is another level of difficulty in whole process of choosing the unit.
You can DM me if you would like to keep the matter private.

Cheers
I wouldn’t own another Poseidon ccr based on personal experience,
As you’ve already heard, they are quite partial to failing pre-dive auto tests, mine particularly enjoyed failing positive tests and of course if it does you then have to start all the tests again ,, and again,,, and again, each time the unit just gobbles gas until the owner is tearful,
The counterlungs (chest) just dont facilitate putting bale out cylinders on , I honestly don’t know how they managed to design them and forget about bale outs, they have D rings at the bottom of the lungs yes, but just like the FMCL on inspo’s they’re just too damn low, in the water the cylinder valves are so far away underneath the diver it’s awful, I’m a fabricator so managed to make a custom set of D rings to peek out the side of the harness at a better height between the lung Velcro attachment to harness webbing,
The battery,, every so many cycles the battery has to do a learn cycle which takes quite a few hours, and it doesn’t warn you of this per-se so when your halfway through your weeks diving on a hardboat you can bet your bottom dollar it will pull that card on you and you can’t defer it until later it just won’t charge to get you in the water without going on learn cycle for 5hrs or so (if memory serves on time there) oh and the batteries are depth specific, £££…
Trim, awful machine to trim even worse with inverted cylinder set up and drysuit, I used to have 2kg zip tied on the top of each shoulder under the counter lungs just to trim out, (inverted cylinders, dry suit, sea)
The mk6,s were even worse if you wanted to put a helium mix on, as unless the mix was completely accurate to agree with the handset it simply said incorrect gas and wouldn’t pass test, ie, you test the mix and your analyser said 18.3 / 34.6 you’d have to guess and hope the automatic machine test agreed with you, so your 18/35 as you understand it could be 18/36 or 19/35 but it wouldn’t tell you that, you just got “incorrect Gas” and wouldn’t play.

The mouthpiece is very good
The self packing scrubber is good
The size is good

But you’ll never see one on a boat off to do 60-100+m dives, or at least I never have,
Their principle is a good one, it’s just not executed very well, you can buy a standard 7even with cylinders valve up with a 40m battery, and then the tec version has bigger lungs inverted cylinders etc etc and it can’t have been engineered correctly to trim and work in both guises, plus look at the new prices of them? Straight in at the price I’d want a full shearwater controlled JJ, rEvo or XCCR and if you dive one of those it is honestly night and day compared, embarrassing really. I would say if you have the money and go shearwater controlled unit if you ever use a Nerd instead of HUD you have a hell of a yardstick, (sorry for rant, I don’t hate them, they’re just so outclassed, it disappointed me hugely, I missed epic dives, and at least twice I actually shed a tear being frustrated with it on the boat when people were getting in and the slack window was gone for me)

If you dive a JJ and a rEvo you will know which is more harmonious for you and either is built well and performs very well.
 
Seven has a neat idea behind it and is a well-made machine. However, it has an exceptionally low-tolerance electronics that may lock out the unit. I, too, considered the unit but decided to go against it in favor of rEvo.
And I bet you’ve had no problems with the rEvo! Compact, reliable and inspires confidence, I know of 3 of my friends that have done 200m+ dives on them, very low on sofnolime appetite too!!
 
In a similar vein, have seen AP Inspirations that threw a hissy fit on the boat preventing the dive. Something about calibrating.

FWIW, have hundreds of dives on my Revo and it's yet to let me down pre-dive. It's got two sensor networks (Petrel & Nerd) which are completely separate so should one go down, the other's still working. (Mine has Petrel on the DiveCAN bus monitoring 3 cells, with the Nerd on the analogue bus monitoring the other two cells)
 

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