mderrick
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Does anyone know what Robs certification level was?
It's not much of an assumption that the charter operator was told by the divers themselves they were qualified to do the dives, probably as part of the release. IMO the whole issue of how he was trained, who he was trained by and what agency issued various certifications (if any) appear to be a bit of a "red herring" from the standpoint of the legal complaint. It certainly was't much, if any, issue in another recent court case involving the fatality of a well known photographer on a rebreather who was clearly unqualified. There is no legal authority that reviews training standards and blesses training standards. I've never had a "U.S. Government Inspector" appear for the purposes of auditing my compliance with training standards. Recreational scuba diving in the U.S. is actually one of the areas of my life that thankfully seems largely unregulated. Training standards exist in part because you can't get insurance to underwrite the risks without them, because on the whole they reduce risks during training. Training standards are minimums, some agencies prefer the instructor not to exceed them and other agencies prefer the minimums be exceeded. After formal training you may select your own level of risk you find acceptable, at least in America.
While we know quality of training and experience are in someways related to dive accident statistics, it's not clear this would be germane to the legal case. If this wasn't an accident that occurred during formal training, then it's unlikely the plaintiffs would get very far trying to prove the deceased died as a direct result of being improperly trained. If for no other reason than what benchmark for proper training could be applied; agency standards? community standards? Perhaps, but as all the discussion here demonstrates, those are far from comprehensive, uniform, static, or even particularly well informed. Highly skilled and superbly trained divers also have dive accidents.
Again, I suspect that all the speculation, "blamestorming" and personal attacks on the internet discussions were a key factor in the amazing speed of the plaintiffs (as observed in previous posts before significant reports are even completed) and very limited number of defendants associated with this complaint. Technical diving is an extreme risk sport and can go wrong in an instant even when everything is done right, but human nature is to seek an explanation that reassures. "They made a mistake that wouldn't happen to me." or perhaps "My loved one could not have made a mistake." I'm not defending those named in the complaint, but applying well established sport diving concepts, vessel operations and community expectations to the rapidly evolving nature of technical diving activities is a non sequitur.
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