Dive Talk Go Rebreather

[rddvet]

@rddvet OK.

The one thing I've learned as I've gotten older and in the current severly divided political landscape of our country is you can not respect or agree with a person's singular viewpoint, but can still respect them as a person.
Probably something 90% of our country should learn too. It took me a while.

 

[J-Vo]

If there's water in the CL and you tip down you will get a caustic. And many caves demand you go head down. It's a terrible water trap because there's no way to dewater it.

It's more like a zigzag, so you have to lean left while tipping up, then tip down while leaning left again. I'm not say it isn't possible, but it's not a direct path.

 

[rjack321]

It's more like a zigzag, so you have to lean left while tipping up, then tip down while leaning left again. I'm not say it isn't possible, but it's not a direct path.

no leaning left required, if you have enough moisture in the loop its going to the mouthpiece when you tip down.

In something like a Meg or JJ you can expel liters of water without it getting to your mouthpiece

 

[DOBY]

Could a moderator split this into two treads: (1) DiveTalk Go and (2) SW1 flood tolerance before it get even more de-railed?

 

[rddvet]

Could a moderator split this into two treads: (1) DiveTalk Go and (2) SW1 flood tolerance before it get even more de-railed?

Why, they have some interrelations to each other. I see a split just making it confusing.

 

[rjack321]

Why, they have some interrelations to each other. I see a split just making it confusing.

At least in terms of counterlung dewatering they both have a comparable weakness

 

[DOBY]

Why, they have some interrelations to each other. I see a split just making it confusing.

I don’t see the interrelations besides both having a low flood tolerance and no way of de-watering the counter lungs.

The difference are way more:

One is it’s sole training agency. The other uses established independent training agencies. (By the way, is DiveTalkGO orDiveTalk GO Academy part of RESA?)

While both might have been initially designed by the same person. They now have very different owners/manufacture or markieting/distributor.

Ones a chest mount, the others a side mount.

Ones a recreation CCR (whatever that means) and the other is a technical CCR who’s main niche is cave diving.

 

[rddvet]

I don’t see the interrelations besides both having a low flood tolerance and no way of de-watering the counter lungs.

The difference are way more:

One is it’s sole training agency. The other uses established independent training agencies. (By the way, is DiveTalkGO orDiveTalk GO Academy part of RESA?)

While both might have been initially designed by the same person. They now have very different owners/manufacture or markieting/distributor.

Ones a chest mount, the others a side mount.

Ones a recreation CCR (whatever that means) and the other is a technical CCR who’s main niche is cave diving.

I disagree. They aren’t completely different units from different companies. The sw and the go are both from the mind of mike young. They also potentially share some aspects because they come from the same guy. Then you add that one is certified through a real agency and the other you’re certified by two tool bags I believe is important information for someone with zero experience.
I see your point but disagree. But we can let the mods decide. But is the effort worth it for them to do it? I don’t think so. But now we’ve muddled up the thread with should we split the thread which is more of a waste than having talk of a ccr that may share similar traits to the go.
Out of curiosity do you dive a sw?

 

[Mobulai]

umm..

I disagree. They aren’t completely different units from different companies. The sw and the go are both from the mind of mike young. They also potentially share some aspects because they come from the same guy. Then you add that one is certified through a real agency and the other you’re certified by two tool bags I believe is important information for someone with zero experience.
I see your point but disagree. But we can let the mods decide. But is the effort worth it for them to do it? I don’t think so. But now we’ve muddled up the thread with should we split the thread which is more of a waste than having talk of a ccr that may share similar traits to the go.
Out of curiosity do you dive a sw?

late to the party; I agree with both sentiments

maybe a compromise works for everyone -- I have seen many threads that felt more like an open convention with multiple topics being discussed in parallel; sometimes even singular posts replying to some/all topics

Also, might be a clusterF*** to untangle this

How about adding some tags to the thread; and if the SW discussion wants to evolve into a more "focused" thread someone can always start a new thread that links to this one as a source/ starting point (at best link to the specific post here in which the SW conversation started)

I bet whoever searches in the future for SW flooding will be able to follow through in a way

just my 2gs of sorb
(ok now I go back and read the 26 past pages)

 

[DOBY]

I disagree. They aren’t completely different units from different companies. The sw and the go are both from the mind of mike young. They also potentially share some aspects because they come from the same guy. Then you add that one is certified through a real agency and the other you’re certified by two tool bags I believe is important information for someone with zero experience.
I see your point but disagree. But we can let the mods decide. But is the effort worth it for them to do it? I don’t think so. But now we’ve muddled up the thread with should we split the thread which is more of a waste than having talk of a ccr that may share similar traits to the go.
Out of curiosity do you dive a sw?

Yes, I own 3 CCR’s. My first is a Jergensen Marine Hanmerhead which came with the old RevC handsets and front mount counterlungs back in 2010, but since been upgraded to a SubGravity Defender head and BM counterlungs which also has a water dump valve.

I have owned a SW1, S/N: J9181 since July 2019 and a DiveRite O2ptima CM since 2022.

There is no comparison about the flood tolerance between them. You can completely flow the Choptima and dewater it and it works fine with the ExtendAir cartridges. The Defender is also very flood tolerant as have completed a 330 foot dive with 2+ hours of deco with the canister 1/2 full of water with the radial scrubber still working fine on deco as long as semi-vertical. The only 2 bailout I had in the last 15 years have been cave diving the SW1 due to unable to dewater the loop/CL.

Go back and re-read my initial post. I did say that both units were designed by the same person. But no way are the units similar - at least the SW1 has two canisters that sort of acts as a semi water trap to prevent getting the cells wet which are on the inhale canister side, whereas the GO just has one canister.