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... I'm really sorry to hear about your friends. 
Here's wishing safe and happy diving for all! Take care out there.
K.
Here's wishing safe and happy diving for all! Take care out there.
K.
Death on a Rebreather
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Wazza, you need to find some better diving partners and schools.
I've been teaching diving for 28 years and my clubs have certified about 2000 divers in that time and we have had NO fatailties, 2 skin bends and 4 or 5 panic attacks, and my last club was doing 5,000 dives a year, many in the old days to 60-80m on single air tanks (Shudder even thinking about that nowadays)
Its not OC or RB's that kill, its bad training, planning and a lack of common sense. People need to take responsibility for their own diving. I've seen the standards of diver training plummet in that time as commercialism takes preference over skills abd diving is dumbed down. Hell in the early 80's even novices were taught roped diving, Deco, Rescue, Ice, snorkelling, All the baratraumas etc, etc even though BC's were not even invented. There was a lot more emphasis on pool training and constant drills and correct weighting and the theory exams were bloody hard.
Some of the so called certified divers that come and join my current club dont have a clue even how to put the regulator on the tank and yet they are doing 40m dives with anyone who will take their money. I just had a trainee in the dive shop I help out in the other day. He was saying about the 60m dive he had just done. When we asked him about deco he said he didn't need to do any as he wasn't deco qualified (we run his profile through DDPlan and he'd missed 20-30 mins!!!!!!). Apparently the schools Divemaster lead them on this dive
Until the agencies up the standards and start failing those who cant pass muster and kick out the bad instructors there will be more and more deaths untill the goverments step in and BAN us.
Certificates need to be earnt not paid for
OK rant over :upset:
I've been teaching diving for 28 years and my clubs have certified about 2000 divers in that time and we have had NO fatailties, 2 skin bends and 4 or 5 panic attacks, and my last club was doing 5,000 dives a year, many in the old days to 60-80m on single air tanks (Shudder even thinking about that nowadays)
Its not OC or RB's that kill, its bad training, planning and a lack of common sense. People need to take responsibility for their own diving. I've seen the standards of diver training plummet in that time as commercialism takes preference over skills abd diving is dumbed down. Hell in the early 80's even novices were taught roped diving, Deco, Rescue, Ice, snorkelling, All the baratraumas etc, etc even though BC's were not even invented. There was a lot more emphasis on pool training and constant drills and correct weighting and the theory exams were bloody hard.
Some of the so called certified divers that come and join my current club dont have a clue even how to put the regulator on the tank and yet they are doing 40m dives with anyone who will take their money. I just had a trainee in the dive shop I help out in the other day. He was saying about the 60m dive he had just done. When we asked him about deco he said he didn't need to do any as he wasn't deco qualified (we run his profile through DDPlan and he'd missed 20-30 mins!!!!!!). Apparently the schools Divemaster lead them on this dive
Until the agencies up the standards and start failing those who cant pass muster and kick out the bad instructors there will be more and more deaths untill the goverments step in and BAN us.
Certificates need to be earnt not paid for
OK rant over :upset:
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Poking around some web sites it seems that one only needs about 50 OW dives with no fitness requirement to take a CCR class.
GUE RB80 training is interesting. No smokers, swiming and breath hold requirements and must complete GUE Tech-1 (not easy) before starting RB80 class. And RB80 level 2 is even more fun.
Of course a good CCR instructor will add their own requirements.
Interesting if GUE provided a CCR class (or bootcamp may be a better term). It would be a great class...
OC skills are not that relevent to CCR diving. And you will be starting over as a novice all over again anyway
Fitness, Well I'd probably be failed instantly by GUE (old and too many beers), but I'll hold my own diving with them. Whats being able to run a marathin got to do with weightlessness on a unit where the gas duration is measured in hours rather than minutes
Its mind set thats important
Good on the instructor than kicked out an SCR student. I know of a CCR instructor who has also failed more than one student as well. We need more instructors like them
Fitness, Well I'd probably be failed instantly by GUE (old and too many beers), but I'll hold my own diving with them. Whats being able to run a marathin got to do with weightlessness on a unit where the gas duration is measured in hours rather than minutes
Its mind set thats important
Good on the instructor than kicked out an SCR student. I know of a CCR instructor who has also failed more than one student as well. We need more instructors like them
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