Cozumel’s diving is so “rushed”

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This has been an interesting read... I book my first COZ trip juts a few weeks ago, I hope to experience the good 'efficient' style of diving, and not feel rushed for 2+ weeks...

Time will tell...
 
Actually, the real first rule of ScubaBoard is to have fun while learning something. However, the rest of your post is spot on. If you find your expectations shattered, then either they were wildly out of whack or someone broke the ToS. In the case of the former, you should expect and even look forward to others expressing an opinion different than yours. Don't be so fragile, and please don't blame ScubaBoard that not everyone thinks like you. What a boring place this would be if only "yes men" posted here. I love a spirited discussion and love how it allows me to suss things out. How else would I learn and progress in my understanding if I simply rejected any perspective that disagrees with my understanding?

However, if you feel a thread is going off the rails, ie is getting way off topic, then please report the first offending post and let us know why you think it violates the ToS or the spirit of friendly discourse.

Pete, it was me that expressed surprise at some of the responses, NOT @Dogbowl. Ergo, I inadvertently invited even more vituperative response. My bad.
 
I did one shore dive at Chankanaab Park this time and despite it being only 24 feet deep, I REALLY enjoyed it! So much to see when you go slowly. I was hoping to give the SCC shore dive a try but didn’t get to.

I’m really starting to think that I might really enjoy the likes of Bonaire and Cocoview.

I visited both locations (Bonaire a full week summers of 2004 and 2006, Cocoview, full week, summer 2005) I have some good memories and glad I experienced both locations, but have never sought to return to either place again. If you think Coz is too much work, you will definitely hate Bonaire! I felt like I was in the military, basic training, it is the polar opposite of a nice live aboard. You will be schlepping LOTS of tanks, weights, scuba gear all over the place, over ironshore/urchins, in the hot sun, roasting in your wetsuit until you can finally hit the water. Any sort of even relatively modest wave action makes sore entries/exits impossible in many places. You'll be issued a rusted out 5-speed manual transmission mini-pickup truck, and you'll do a lot of advance scouting on foot to plot out safe entry/exit points for divers and to avoid getting the truck stuck. Gas prices are 5X what we pay here in the USA (a liter there costs what a gallon costs in the USA) . We ended up preferring signing up for the dive resort boat trip packages over doing 100% shore diving to ease up on the 'military style' diving. Bonaire has an ongoing reputation for property crime that the police are either unwilling or unable to control. On the 'plus' side, I don't remember the locals as being unfriendly or anything, standing on shore the surrounding waters were breathtakingly beautiful varieties of aquablue/aquamarine, and it's unique to experience a desert island (cactus) environment in what you'd normally expect to be a green rainforest/tropical place. Grocery shopping in Dutch stores was interesting as well, their foods (and their flavors) are not always what you expect compared to 'back home'. I thought the diving and reef conditions and visibility were pretty good, but that was 13-15 yrs ago, and reliable sources (Undercurrent.org for one) state reef/fish life conditions have declined dramatically (I understand Bonaire has caught the cruise ship/ over development disease with it's inevitable results).

Cocoview is much easier diving than Bonaire, but even way back in 2005 it was totally fished out. The reefs seemed fine but animal/fish life was strangely absent, I can't even imagine how empty it must be these days, 14 years later. Cocoview vis isn't in the same class as Coz (much more murky/smoky) due to jungle rain sediment runoff, but again, my biggest takeaway at Cocoview was it's totally fished out. (did a Belize live aboard in 2011, also completely fished out) Cocoview has an easy, well oiled diving machine, but it's pretty repetitive and animal life is extinct.
 
Nope, not criticizing Coz diving at all. It's kind of a "it's me, not you" type of thing.



I guess my point was that my diving tastes have evolved...but I received some helpful tips on how I can make Coz diving feel less rushed...so for that I'm grateful.



I had doubts about Bonaire: 1) I don't think I'd like lugging tanks and gear around myself; 2) I've heard that the people aren't all that friendly; 3) flights/hotel is generally more expensive.

Number 3 isn't really a complaint, just an observation. Number 1 and 2 - maybe I should just give it a try and see for myself. One last thing, I'm more experienced now and think I can better handle myself diving (with my buddy) without a DM. So, Bonaire is looking better and better.

Avoiding your issue #1 will be something of a challenge while shore diving Bonaire, just sayin'.
 
Dogbowl is a SHE. :giggle:

This thread ran the course that most threads go here on SB. I shoulda known better than to post an honest opinion. Anything other than praises and kudos are often not well received.

But I guess ppl enjoy the drama. Carry on. :wink:

Trust me, you are getting off pretty easy here, when I posted my early 2006 'post Hurricane Wilma' reef condition/damage report I had to enter the Federal Witness Protection program immediately thereafter.
 
I've been to several resorts, and if you're looking for "easy", then Anthony Keys Resort is above and beyond the easiest way to go. OK, the restaurant is a bit of a climb, but getting on the boat in the am is as easy as it gets.
 
I visited both locations (Bonaire a full week summers of 2004 and 2006, Cocoview, full week, summer 2005) I have some good memories and glad I experienced both locations, but have never sought to return to either place again. If you think Coz is too much work, you will definitely hate Bonaire! I felt like I was in the military, basic training, it is the polar opposite of a nice live aboard. You will be schlepping LOTS of tanks, weights, scuba gear all over the place, over ironshore/urchins, in the hot sun, roasting in your wetsuit until you can finally hit the water. Any sort of even relatively modest wave action makes sore entries/exits impossible in many places. You'll be issued a rusted out 5-speed manual transmission mini-pickup truck, and you'll do a lot of advance scouting on foot to plot out safe entry/exit points for divers and to avoid getting the truck stuck. Gas prices are 5X what we pay here in the USA (a liter there costs what a gallon costs in the USA) . We ended up preferring signing up for the dive resort boat trip packages over doing 100% shore diving to ease up on the 'military style' diving. Bonaire has an ongoing reputation for property crime that the police are either unwilling or unable to control. On the 'plus' side, I don't remember the locals as being unfriendly or anything, standing on shore the surrounding waters were breathtakingly beautiful varieties of aquablue/aquamarine, and it's unique to experience a desert island (cactus) environment in what you'd normally expect to be a green rainforest/tropical place. Grocery shopping in Dutch stores was interesting as well, their foods (and their flavors) are not always what you expect compared to 'back home'. I thought the diving and reef conditions and visibility were pretty good, but that was 13-15 yrs ago, and reliable sources (Undercurrent.org for one) state reef/fish life conditions have declined dramatically (I understand Bonaire has caught the cruise ship/ over development disease with it's inevitable results).

Cocoview is much easier diving than Bonaire, but even way back in 2005 it was totally fished out. The reefs seemed fine but animal/fish life was strangely absent, I can't even imagine how empty it must be these days, 14 years later. Cocoview vis isn't in the same class as Coz (much more murky/smoky) due to jungle rain sediment runoff, but again, my biggest takeaway at Cocoview was it's totally fished out. (did a Belize live aboard in 2011, also completely fished out) Cocoview has an easy, well oiled diving machine, but it's pretty repetitive and animal life is extinct.

Haven’t been to Bonaire but have been to curaçao and understand the diving type is much the same, shire entries are sandier though. A few of us went to the dive shop and said put us on a boat, any boat, anytime there is space. That physical hike to the beach and swim out to the reef takes the mojo out of diving for me.

I need to do a live aboard next but till then, rolling off a boat and drifting along is my cup of tea.
 
I visited both locations (Bonaire a full week summers of 2004 and 2006, Cocoview, full week, summer 2005) I have some good memories and glad I experienced both locations, but have never sought to return to either place again. If you think Coz is too much work, you will definitely hate Bonaire! I felt like I was in the military, basic training, it is the polar opposite of a nice live aboard. You will be schlepping LOTS of tanks, weights, scuba gear all over the place, over ironshore/urchins, in the hot sun, roasting in your wetsuit until you can finally hit the water. Any sort of even relatively modest wave action makes sore entries/exits impossible in many places. You'll be issued a rusted out 5-speed manual transmission mini-pickup truck, and you'll do a lot of advance scouting on foot to plot out safe entry/exit points for divers and to avoid getting the truck stuck.

Sounds awesome! Seriously. It's more physical "work" but the reason I like shore diving is that it's all on me. You make your own schedule. Do 1 dive or 5 dives in a day. Get in at 8am or 11am.

I second Anthony's Key for "easy". But it may feel "rushed" if you do every dive and "feel" rushed if those around you are moving fast even if you're not told to move faster. They have a schedule, as all operators do, but theirs is strict and synchronized.
 

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