Fire on safari boat Suzana in Egypt (Red Sea Aggressor)

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Hi Ken,
As a backup to the night watchman (in case he falls asleep or becomes incapacitated) do the think the following would be practical.

At various points around the boat there would be buttons positioned well away from sleeping areas.
If none of these buttons have been pressed within the last two minutes then all buttons would start to emit a warning sound, not loud enough to wake anybody up but loud enough to alert an inattentive or distracted night watchman. (Maybe it could say alarm activates in xx seconds)

If none of the buttons are then pressed within the next 60 seconds then the alarm systems are activated and emergency services automatically called.
There would be a gigantic call out fee by emergency services for a false alarm.
I think that a fairly simple and inexpensive system like this could be devised.
The system is called BWNAS. Someone thought of it long before we did. We have it on all of our boats. Bridge navigational watch alarm system - Wikipedia
 
Sure should work for that purpose.
However, diving with your passport (and green card and some cash) in such a waterproof pouch, even with all excess air squeezed out because you are diving from a cruise boat via self booked day dive trip and are to chicken to leave these items on the day boat is I'll advised as, even so it worked just fine a number of times, you might one daypend some time drying the items in the cruise cabin. You might even find out that older style passports (with the hard book binding kind of fabric coated covers) sort of have their cover structure delaminate a bit and that the thin covers (like in US passports (like in my sons) hold up much better. However, runny ink on some visa stamps (or stamped visa stickers) or on some entry / exit stamps also could be an issue if some day you find you have a reason to need to decipher something.
Ask me how I know...
Anyway a wet passport with you is oodles better than none!

That waterproof soft case would not be going diving with me. In fact, knock on wood, it would never get wet. It would be sitting on the end table, next to the bed during the nap / sleep in the cabin. The sole purpose is for me to quickly grab on it, putting the loop lanyard around my neck and dashing out of the cabin with my pajamas during an emergency evacuation.
 
So far, it seems that one has to do a fair amount of on site due diligence and self inspection of one of these liveaboards after spending a substantial amount of time and money to get there, be prepared to walk away if not up to standards, and even if up to standards, create a personal evacuation plan with contingencies for fire, sinking, or both while asleep, while being mentally prepared to be stranded in a foreign country without support of the sponsoring company. Where do I sign up?
 
Hello Fellow, sorry to hear this tragedic accident and sorry for losing a fellow diver, I'm in the red sea specally in Hurghada, since October 30 never heared of this accident I mad a lot of dives and sea trips during this period and I have connections in the tourism industry in Egypt, May be the aggressor company or the team who run it in Egypt are very negligent, but I can assure you that a lot of local diving center are very good in terms of safety procedure specifically, I have met a lot of crew that can speak at least five different languages, and the boats have all the safety requirements as an example ( RED Sea diving safari Marsa Allam, and diver lodge in Hurghada) and many more, and the way you were treated after the accedent it's not the way we treat our Guests in Egypt, Egyptian are far Kind and generous to tourists, I'm very sorry that you been through this, apologies on behalf of the Egyptian people , if you got the chance to come to dive in Egypt let me know and I will point you to the experts in the diving community here

Thank you Joshi - I do believe that the majority of diving operations are safe and well run. With the exception of the boat manager/owner Ahmed, we were treated very well by the Egyptian authorities and citizens. One of our fellow dive guests on the Red Sea Aggressor is Egyptian (and a dive instructor) and he played a significant role in assisting us through this difficult time (I will name him later, with his permission). The Egyptians we encountered were very generous, like the shop owner who gave us free clothes and shoes when the Red Sea Aggressor left us in what little clothes we jumped off the burning boat in, only giving us a bit of money 13hrs later, and a Dr at the local pharmacy helping us to find replacements for the medications we lost and desperately needed, and anyone that heard of the fire was kind with their support.

My experience traveling through the Middle East and of my Arab friends are that they are very generous and that opinion has not changed. I just want to call to attention to the Aggressors negligence and their bad treatment of the survivors and the victim and her family. I wanted to warn others not to trust the rubber-stamped Aggressor name, because USA safety standards, or most country standards for safety, were not met. And to call attention to the need for better safety standards world-wide for us divers. شكرا جزيلا for your kind words and offer for a good referral to dive again in your beautiful waters. I look forward to returning to Egypt again!
 
Hello fellow divers, I was on the Red Sea Aggressor that caught fire last week. I am the friend and roommate of the amazing and beloved diver that died due to the negligence of the Aggressor company who have been attempting to malign and victim blame her from the very beginning. Ahmed, the owner/rep was surprisingly allowed in all of our initial Egyptian police interviews; and while representing the Aggressor company, Ahmed repeatedly tried to twist, lie, and mistranslate what we said to the translator and to the Arabic speaking policeman.

First, our friend, the victim, did not return to the room for a computer. Second, the crew did not maintain or perform a 24hr fire watch (attested to by another diver) as we had been told by the crew that they did during our Day 1 safety briefing, and is the norm on boats. NONE of the fire alarms worked. There was NO alarm and NO bell, verbal or other crew alert of a fire or danger. We, the surviving divers are alive only because we woke on our own accord due to the suffocating smell of smoke and made our way to and through our below deck emergency hatch on our own. The crew did not rescue us except to pick us up in the zodiacs after we had to jump overboard just after midnight to save our lives. Although our crew miraculously got another zodiac in the water and got us out of the water and to a nearby ship, it was the a fellow diver and crew from the nearby moored rescuing ship Emperor Asmaa, that shouted for us to jump overboard, just before the tanks started exploding.

The Egyptian prosecutors appropriately arrested Ahmed from the Aggressor, the day after, and I feel confident they will continue to investigate this horrific, senseless and 100% preventable tragedy fully and hold all those negligent responsible for our friend's death, and our near-deaths.

And, as if things couldn't have gotten worse, the Red Sea Aggressor treated us horribly. Despite promising us clothing and toiletries upon arrival at the hotel hours after docking and the police interviews, they left us in wet clothes and towels and shoeless for 15hrs after the fire. A generous Egyptian hotel shop owner, Ramen "Marco" took pity on us and offered all of us our choice of free shoes and clothing. I cannot thank him or the other strangers enough, those in addition to Marco who also stepped in to help: besides the rescue, Emperor Asmaa's crew and guests that gave us towels and their own dry clothes and emotional support; Charlotte Smurthwaite from the Sunrise Marina Resort guest services did everything she could to make things more bearable; a German guest in the hotel dining room that went to back to his room and returned with 3 pieces of clothing for a shirtless male diver, because the only shirt the diver owned was still drying after being washed the night before and he was almost denied entry to eat; and when a UK hotel guest Derek Gale heard me begging the Aggressor company over the hotel lobby phone to give us more than the paltry $123 they finally gave us at 3pm after the fire, which didn't go far considering our needs after losing everything, even if just a "loan" not a handout, so we could buy and have access to a cell for international calls to call loved ones and make arrangements, buy a single pair of underwear, and change of clothes, medication, etc, - to which they told me "they had given us all 'enough'" and refused us even a loan of money until we could get replacement bank cards (BTW, most of us didn't even have single piece of underwear until 2.75days later), Derek returned with hundreds of British Pounds; also a big thanks to all those in the USA FBI and Embassy in Cairo that treated us so warmly, escorted us, expedited our replacement passports and provided us with other necessities and support which the Aggressor repeatedly refused to us.

At one point, Red Sea Aggressor owner David Home even physically attacked and hurt me me, in an attempt to wrestle one of the two international phones they allowed the survivors to use out of my hand after I told him I wanted to speak to his boss and he refused to make the call himself. He had the nerve to call the US Embassy and claim I attacked him. I'm a USAF Veteran, and if my unimpeachable 24 years of civil service isn't enough, I welcome a lie detector to prove him wrong.

Regardless of your experience with or impression of the Aggressor Company world-wide in the past, I hope you boycott them out of principle of the matter...not just for their blatant negligence of a fellow diver's death, but for their victim blaming, which is a slap in the face of our friend and her family, and for the inhumane and insensitive way the Aggressor treated us, the survivors, after the fact. Plus, I don't want any other diver to ever go through this or be treated so horribly like we have been. There are plenty of other great diving companies, please vote with your wallet and go with anyone else besides the Aggressor Fleet. We trusted them by name for the quality and safety record a USA run company represents. If they are willing to rubber-stamp franchises without holding them to basic safety standards, none of us, as guests are safe on any of the Aggressor fleet. Laughably, they've offered us vouchers for a future trip with them as if I'd set foot on an Aggressor death-trap again.

Please post this statement to any sites that repeat the Aggressor's lies and blame the victim, or post a link in a reply to me so I can ask for a correction, we already have done so with another scuba article and they have respected our request for a change to the truth. Please warn all divers you know, and spread the truth from the survivors, on this matter. Eat, sleep, dive, and hopefully survive.

Update DPG November 7, 2019 @ 05:30 PM
Red Sea Aggressor I Sinks After Fire, Killing One Diver

Another survivor's account - this is the person I referred to above, "Second, the crew did not maintain or perform a 24hr fire watch (attested to by another diver) ...."
Egypt: Red Sea Aggressor 1 burning - Diveinside News
 
I think that it's better to maybe have both? In the Dancer disaster the boat was flipped and the passengers had to swim out. Those that survived at least. A phone flashlight would not suffice in that situation. I think a more powerful and waterproof flashlight would also be much more effective if having to jump off the boat at night. It would help rescue boats locate you and just be helpful to have. After hearing of the rescue zodiacs picking people up i think that a flashlight would also help so that they don't accidentally run you over during a search. It is hard enough to see people during the day.

It's shocking to me but that the Facebook page for the Red Sea Aggressor makes zero mention of this. When the Siren boat went down last year at least they addressed the matter publicly. It's just morally wrong not to make any mention of it. That is where I take issue with Aggressor. Laws and liability aside...it is just wrong to pretend like this incident never happened. Wayne or Wayne should step up to the plate here. This isn't some AC not working or a boat that needs work. Someone died here. Do the right thing.

Siren had yet again another boat go down just last year?! Where please because I hadn't heard of this and had believed that the bad luck? streak had ended. I'd assumed that stresk had ended because they had hired more skilled captains and properly trained their crews. Smh
 
Siren had yet again another boat go down just last year?! Where please because I hadn't heard of this and had believed that the bad luck? streak had ended. I'd assumed that stresk had ended because they had hired more skilled captains and properly trained their crews. Smh

I thought the most recent one was Fiji Siren in 2017?!
 
When I was on the Indo Aggressor in August this year I noticed the escape hatch on the lower level was tied shut with wire ties. In an emergency it was have been very difficult to escape. This is the type of nonsense you get from a company that acts as a middle man and doesn't own any of their own boats. After the fiasco with the Fiji Aggressor earlier this year, it's very apparent that this company could care less about its customer base. I will be spending all of money on other liveaboards now.
 
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