Is it worth it to complete last semester of bachelors before going to dive school?

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Hello,

Assuming I go into commercial diving, does having a college degree in English Literature offer any advantage to the newbie diver? Or should I just save my money and forget about my last five classes complete them later? For what its worth I'll be done with the English literature part of my degree, all I have left are the absurd fine arts/general requirement classes.

Also interested in you guys's 5c on the outlook of industry. Seems like relatively cheap oil, and underwater drones are about to dampen demand for divers.
 
I toyed with the idea of deep commercial diving in the mid 1980's, mostly because saturation divers made money like rock stars in the mid 70s and into the 80's. But the reality at the time was that it was not a matter of if you got bent, but when, and careers as active divers were very short. You could plan on debilitating issues with things like bone necrosis by your mid 40's. That already short career was also limited by years spend as a tender for relatively low pay until you got the seniority to actually start diving.

I don't think the long term effects have changed much in the industry, despite better technology, and you'll still have to pay your dues as surface support hoping for a chance to actually dive and make serious money.

In that regard, the more education you have the better over the long term. English lit isn't what I'd call a horribly marketable degree, but it's a degree and for many jobs that's all you need. The irony here is that it's often those general requirement classes that give you the rounding of experience and broadening of thought which underpins the requirement for a college degree in many jobs in the first place. They won't give a damn about the English lit.

In the offshore commercial dive industry, the major advantage of a degree are in terms of showing you are able to manage your time and are disciplined enough to finish a degree in the first place, and while it has nothing to do with welding, rigging, wrench bending or diving, once you acquire those skills as part of a diver training program, it's still something extra on your resume. Plus, once your career is over and you're limping around on bad knees and hips, having an actual completed bachelor's degree that never goes bad, will be far more valuable than a 100 or so credits that never amounted to a degree, as most of those credits won't transfer to another university, and even in your old university many of those credits may no longer count toward a degree.

So get the degree, even if it's in English lit. It will get you in door for any job that just requires a degree, and it will also get you into grad school for something much more marketable later on.

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In my case, I opted not to get into offshore commercial diving, but did inland commercial diving for about 20 years as a sideline business. The work was mostly inspection, salvage and recovery (with the occasional body recovery), marina maintenance, etc and while not terribly exiting it was always interesting, usually zero viz and quite challenging in it's own way. And at age 50 my joints all still work as advertised and I'm looking forward to another 20 years or so of active technical wreck and cave diving that I would not be doing had I went the offshore route.
 
I'm no professional diver of any kind, and never was. I have a degree. More importantly, I can tell you 2 things:

1.) One of my favorite teachers in college strongly recommended to our class to push forward & get your degree now. Don't take time off to go work awhile, planning to come back. When you're young, single & childless, you're the most unencumbered you will ever be. It's far harder to do when you've got other important commitments.

2.) My wife has an Associates Degree from way back, and she's been working on advancing to a Bachelor's. With online course work, this isn't as hard as it used to be, but it's burdens and has been taking far longer that getting the Bachelor's originally likely would've for most Bachelor's students.

5 Classes is about one semester for a full time student. I can be a year & a half to 2 years for a working part-timer.

Richard.
 
Finish your degree NOW! Gives you something to fall back on when (if) the industry changes (more robots) or you change your mind on career path.
 
Definitely finish the degree now, especially if you only have one semester left. You'll never regret getting the BA no matter what your major was. It would be silly to partially waste the 3 1/2 years you've already put into this project and if I were your prospective employer it would make me ask questions about you.

ETA: Sorry, I didn't see this was the commercial diver forum. I am definitely rec only.
 
I am only a recreational diver too but I am chiming in to say "finish your degree". You are so close and if you decide to wait then some of your classes probably won't transfer and some may be too old to apply to a degree and you will have to repeat them or take other classes.

My sister had 3 years of college toward her teaching degree when she dropped out to get married. She planned to go back to school later but never did it. Later she regretted not finishing her degree as she worked as an admin assistant for the rest of her career. And nowadays they often require a degree for a good admin position. She said she would have liked to have had the security, flexibility, and higher salary of a teaching degree/credentials and also the option to take summers off to spend with family, like teachers!

And I can tell you from personal experience, it is a lot harder to get through school when you have a job and a family to care for. I always knew that I wanted to get a graduate degree to advance my education and career, but I didn't continue with it straight after graduating with a B.S. and earning my certification. I decided to work, take a break from school, save some money, and go back to school later.

The longer I was away the harder it got to go back. I got married and had a very demanding job and family responsibilities. Even if you don't plan to marry or have children, I found that I had responsibilities to care for elderly and infirm parents and in-laws who needed more and more help as we all got older.

I finally went back to grad school one class at a time on weekends and evenings and it was not easy. It took me 5.5 years to finish a graduate degree that would have required 2 years if I had gone to school full time - and then it would have been done. I don't regret it because it has enhanced my knowledge and career, but I always knew that it was what I wanted to do, and I could have started down that path a whole lot sooner and more easily.

Finish your degree, you are so close and once you have it, you will always have it. And it may help you in ways that you can't imagine right now - things may change over time and an undergraduate degree is a requirement for many jobs. And although you may not see it now, a degree in English is applicable to many career opportunities. And having a degree is often considered proof of intelligence and discipline (although that's not always true!) and that you have transferable skills that may be pertinent to many areas. Good luck!
 
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Finish your degree now. Outside what everyone else said if the requirements change in 5 years and you goto finish it then you might be stuck with taking 10 classes instead of the 5 now.
 
Hi - good job on getting this far already. Now that you are in the homestretch, I am cheering for you to get to the finish line.

Finishing the college degree is a wise and worthwhile investment in yourself. The payoff may not be felt immediately, but it will bring you value in years to come.

1. As your career progresses, you will likely come upon an opportunity to move into a supervisory or managerial role. These often require a college degree of any major - it's a way for them to set a standard and winnow out the candidate field. Finishing the degree allows you to keep these doors open. Fortune favors the prepared.

2. It is very satisfying to finish something you set out to do. The degree shows, to yourself and those around you, that you can manage yourself and achieve a complex goal.

3. It will be easier for your to finish it now with everything all set up and ready to go - no messing with transcripts, re-enrollment, transferring credits, etc. Like others have mentioned, requirements can change from school to school, and also across time.

If you had the chance to go back 20 years and invest in Apple stock, how great would that be? This is an investment in an even better company - "You, Inc." If your older self from the future were to reach back through time and tell you one thing, it might be this - "Dude, finish that degree. Thanks, man."
 
… Assuming I go into commercial diving, does having a college degree in English Literature offer any advantage to the newbie diver? ...

I think it is fair to say there is no advantage at all and I’m not sure I would even put it on my résumé. However, the “Assuming I go into commercial diving” caveat speaks volumes. I encourage you to read all the threads in this forum carefully. It happens, but it is rare that a personality type that is attracted enough to study English Literature is compatible with the harsh life of an offshore commercial oilfield diver.

It is also a horrible time to enter the field given the low price of oil. Consider your options carefully and best of luck discovering your path in life.
 
No-brainer. Get your degree, get a job with some future, and when you feel like diving, go on a diving holiday. There will always be Inshore commercial diving, but the money (and safety) isn't all the greatest, and Offshore diving has fallen off a cliff in the last 6 months.

To illustrate, around a year ago in the North Sea, there were around 20 Saturation DSV's working steadily, most boats would have had a diver's crew list of around 40-50, although some of the big 24 man systems could have a lot more. So that would be around 1000, maybe 1500 working regularly. (And that doesn't count the hundreds, maybe thousands of divers who work in other areas such as the Middle/Far East or west Africa). Right about now, there are around 9 DSV's in that same area, although most of them have severely reduced work-loads, and most vessels have cut crews down to the bone. Many big-hitting boats are being tied up and turned off, some will never work again. I personally know Sat divers with 20+ years experience who have ended up air diving in the Middle East again (going from 5 week trips and £1500 a day to 3 months+ for about $300 a day...) or working in Aquaculture, if they can find a job...

this means that there are thousands of experienced and highly certified/skilled divers who are willing to take many of the jobs that would traditionally be filled by new guys just to pay some bills, and the guys who get to keep their Sat rota's won't be retiring any time soon (about Half the Divers on my vessel are in their 50's, with a couple in their mid-60's) so getting a decent job as a new diver is going to be a whole lot harder for a few years. Remember, when the going was good, research showed that out of an average class of 15, only 1-3 divers renewed their medicals the next year...

might be Europe-based info, but it's a global industry, and from what I hear, the GoM has been in a hole for a few years...
 

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