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Zip ties...differences?

Discussion in 'General Scuba Equipment Discussions' started by bwerb, Feb 27, 2003.

  1. bwerb

    bwerb Hoser/English Translator, eh

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    File this one under triviality but...

    Is there any difference between black zip ties and the white zip ties? I have looked at the packaging of several brands and the black ties have variously stated "weatherproof" and "military grade". Is this just marketing or are they actually different plastic compounds. One of my regs has a white tie holding on the mouthpiece, the other has a black one. I just want to make sure I'm using the wrong ones.
     
  2. SPEEDSTER

    SPEEDSTER Solo Diver

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    Boy, you're just a glutton for punishment, huh?:D

    ps: I don't know if theres a difference, but the black ones look cooler.:)

    Mike
     
  3. bwerb

    bwerb Hoser/English Translator, eh

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    Hahaha!

    I actually caught that as soon as I sent it, I tried to delete the thread to move it to the general equipment section and the computer kicked me out.

    Any moderaters out there? Please move this thread to the general equipment discussions.

    Thanks...and sorry.

    Brian
     
  4. Lead_carrier

    Lead_carrier Instructor, Scuba

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    Yes there are some differences.. but not enough that you have to worry.
     
  5. scubaredneck

    scubaredneck Nassau Grouper

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    If you're blonde, they need to match your wetsuit.

    :rofL:
     
  6. MikeS

    MikeS Divemaster

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    At least with some manufactures the black ties have better resistance to UV light but are more expensive. So we use the white ones indoors and the black ones outside when there’s a possibility they’ll be exposed to the sun. In less than a year with constant exposure to sunlight the white ones become brittle and fall apart.
     
  7. FredT

    FredT Loggerhead Turtle

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    Blacks tend to be much more UV stable, but still have a finite life in the sun. For LONG-term sunlight and saltwater exposure Panduit makes a Pan-Steel tie in 316 stainless. Small cross section white ties are good for about 3 months in tropical sun, black ties will generally last a couple of years. I've had Pan-steel ties exposed on lighthouses for over 15 years with no problem.

    There are major differences in locking methods on plastic zip ties too. These can be classified as a molded in "Nylon block" (releasable or not) or inserted stainless or steel barbs. The stainless steel barbs are more reliable, but cost more. The plated steel barbs are worthless around seawater if you want them to last more than a couple weeks.

    FT
     
  8. Big-t-2538

    Big-t-2538 Divemaster

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    If you want to be DIR...go black...

    Now that I'm aware they're colored...I will be searching for hot pink..or any other color that clashes with black.....
     
  9. FredT

    FredT Loggerhead Turtle

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    My catalog lists them in black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, gray, purple, white, telephone gray, pink, aqua blue and maroon. plus flourescent orange, yellow, green, and pink.

    Not all colors come in all materials, but most are available in Nylon 66.
     
  10. eandiver

    eandiver Solo Diver

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    I've noticed the black ones seem to last longer in the outdoors than the white.
     

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