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[NAM001]

Is this in reference to straight ascent ?? Cesa is pretty much off the table when you go from OW to AOW but possible. I would not want to call a 80 ft dive technical because cesa was not an available/optimal avenue. My position is that cesa is not a dependable option below 60 ft.

Cesa? If no, tech.

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I agree that gas changing moves the dive into a technocal dive. As air deco goes as long as there is no required stops and is <130 ft it is like all other rec dives. All dives are deco. deco for rec dives are covered by ascent rate and not a schedule, Standard ascent rate is taught in basic OW.

I am among those who believe an air decompression dive with air deco is not necessarily a technical dive. To me (to us) a technical dive requires something more. For example, I consider a nitrox decompression dive (with same nitrox deco) to be a tech dive because you now have to account for oxygen exposure. And I consider an air decompression dive with EAN and/or oxygen deco to be a tech dive because a gas change is involved. And I consider an air decompression dive with air deco to be a technical dive whenever a (air) stage bottle is involved.

But, my notion of just what constitutes a "technical dive" was shaped long ago in the late 1980's and early 1990's, when the term was just entering into the popular lexicon. I think newer divers have a different notion of what a "technical dive" is/is not.

I first heard the term when I took my cavern and basic cave certification courses in 1989. I understood then that so long as we students stuck to the basic cave-level training limits (which prohibits "jumps" and "circuits" and decompression dives and "stage bottles," etc.), our cave dives would NOT be considered technical dives.

Safe Diving,

rx7diver

 

[kafkaland]

There is of course a gradient, and not a sharp line between rec and tech. I see the divide mostly in how we plan to address a major problem, let's say a failed first stage, procedurally and through redundant equipment. In rec, my first option is to go to my buddy for help. If there is a second major problem, or I can't find him, the surface is my back-up plan. In tech, I have the redundancy to deal with any one problem myself, and my buddy is my backup plan.

 

[PfcAJ]

Is this in reference to straight ascent ?? Cesa is pretty much off the table when you go from OW to AOW but possible. I would not want to call a 80 ft dive technical because cesa was not an available/optimal avenue. My position is that cesa is not a dependable option below 60 ft.

I would sign up for a cesa from 100ft if I had to, sure. Would you run a single tank with no redundancy to 100ft? I would (and do).

If I don't have a TRUE redundant gas source (like what doubles provide), a cesa is on the table. Ideally I'd get gas from a buddy of course, but if push came to shove I'd beat-feet.

---------- Post added August 29th, 2015 at 05:26 PM ----------

There is of course a gradient, and not a sharp line between rec and tech. I see the divide mostly in how we plan to address a major problem, let's say a failed first stage, procedurally and through redundant equipment. In rec, my first option is to go to my buddy for help. If there is a second major problem, or I can't find him, the surface is my back-up plan. In tech, I have the redundancy to deal with any one problem myself, and my buddy is my backup plan.

^This

 

[DevonDiver]

Some people seem to confuse technical diving and a 'technical diving mindset'.

Both are important, but they are different.

Doing a recreational dive with a technical diving mindset doesn't make it a technical dive (just a prudent one).

Conversely, doing a technical dive with a recreational mindset doesn't make you a technical diver. It just makes it a very dangerous recreational dive.

 

[Diver0001]

Hi would like to ask you guys what defines technical diving to you personally?
i have heard getting paid to dive, a certain depth you go to, If you do decompression on ascending.

just would like to see what it means to you guys

thanks!

I usually associate it with the need to do staged decompression.

R..

 

[Freewillow]

For me, any dive where a different deco gaz is used.

Deco dive with a single gaz is not a Tec dive.

 

[Nasser]

One in which you no longer have direct access to the surface, whether because of a real or virtual(required deco) overhead.

Short and sweet and spot on.

 

[100days-a-year]

Wearing all black dive gear and a tech BC with lots of retractors:hatin:.


DECO is all relative,I run VPM-A-0 or use antiquated computers to dive up to 7 dives a day in mostly 120'to 150' and ascent normally takes care of any deco.You do that with a Suunto or modern computer with any conservatism and you are now doing overhead and with huge hangs at the end of the day.I get out @ 16 to 25min RT.

Also there are rec divers taking deco bottles for their safety stop,2 gasses...whatever

I consider any combo of 2 or more of these to consider if it may be a technical dive.... 1.Planned Deco 2. >130' 3.True overhead 4.Penetration 5.Multi gas

 

[DevonDiver]

 

[MaxBottomtime]

I wouldn't necessarily call a deco obligation technical diving. I've had plenty of dives requiring deco when diving in less than sixty feet. Some computers are way too conservative. I believe that any dive requiring more than a single tank and/or multiple gasses to be tech.