Yoke regulator switch to DIN

[Divin'Papaw]

This part I understand. But where do you get the DIN air intake fitting???

From any Apeks dealer. Except for Leisure Pro, I don't think you can buy them online.

 

[selytch]

link please for LP to see how it looks at least?

 

[Divin'Papaw]

Here is the LP link.

 

[selytch]

gotcha! Thanks a lot!

 

[docmartin]

If you are not cave diving or "extreme" diving, then go with the 200-bar. This will allow you to keed the DIN fitting and use it as yoke with a yoke adapter.

You cannot use a yoke adapter on a DIN reg with 300 bar manifold as previously mentioned. The threads are too deep.

there is no diving too extreme for a 200 bar valve. the fact that two threads stick out has no practical relevance in diving. the force required to break it off is more than anything you could ever do or run into under water.

there is no "DIN reg with a 300 bar manifold" there are only DIN and Yoke regs. DIN regs are all the same. there is no 200 bar and 300 bar version of DIN regs. The tank valves, however, come in 200 and 300 bar versions. the 300 bar version is deeper. this means that the DIN reg will thread all the way in. the 200 bar valve is a little less deep. therefore, when you screw in your DIN reg a couple of threads will stick out. 200 bar valves can be converted to accept yokes. 300 bar valves cannot be converted. I hope this is clear and helps.

one more thing: someone above mentioned an adjustable wrench to remove the yoke. good luck! none i have seen would fit. there is very little space. therefore, adjustable wrenches will be too bulky to fit. you need something slim. Peter Built offers a special tool that works great.

http://www.scubatools.com/Apeks.html

 

[Divin'Papaw]

one more thing: someone above mentioned an adjustable wrench to remove the yoke. good luck! none i have seen would fit. there is very little space. therefore, adjustable wrenches will be too bulky to fit. you need something slim. Peter Built offers a special tool that works great.

http://www.scubatools.com/Apeks.html

I initially tried the "inside" route. You're right ... too tight. Use a 12" adjustable wrench and wrap it around the "outside" of the yoke bracket. Worked great for me once Phil at Dive Sports told me to use a 12" and once I figured out I had to go outside and not inside.

 

[battles2a5]

there is no diving too extreme for a 200 bar valve. the fact that two threads stick out has no practical relevance in diving. the force required to break it off is more than anything you could ever do or run into under water.

I wouldn't worry about the 200b manifold not being strong enough for extreme diving w/ DIN regulators, but I WOULD be concerned with using a valve insert and yoke regs on a set of doubles. The advantage of the DIN connection is the reduced risk of an extruded o-ring at the reg/valve connection. So if you weigh the advantages of converting your regs to DIN vs. converting your tanks/manifold to 200b DIN so you can use yokes, I would convert the regs. Besides, 300b is more appropriate for HP doubles or <gasp> overfilled LP tanks for your doubles. And if you must have a yoke reg around for warm water tropical diving, just get a DIN-to-yoke adapter or convert back w/ the yokes you will have left over.

 

[docmartin]

I initially tried the "inside" route. You're right ... too tight. Use a 12" adjustable wrench and wrap it around the "outside" of the yoke bracket. Worked great for me once Phil at Dive Sports told me to use a 12" and once I figured out I had to go outside and not inside.

oops, never thought of that. i guess i am not good at thinking outside the box. it seems embarassingly obvious now.

 

[docmartin]

...but I WOULD be concerned with using a valve insert and yoke regs on a set of doubles. The advantage of the DIN connection is the reduced risk of an extruded o-ring at the reg/valve connection. So if you weigh the advantages of converting your regs to DIN vs. converting your tanks/manifold to 200b DIN so you can use yokes, I would convert the regs...

agreed. yoke is a bad idea for any type of (technical) diving. i guess old habits die hard is the only explanation why we still use yoke in this part of the world.

 

[Kirkandtiger]

there is no diving too extreme for a 200 bar valve. the fact that two threads stick out has no practical relevance in diving.

DIN regs are all the same. there is no 200 bar and 300 bar version of DIN regs.

In really small muddy caves, 300 bar din valves are nice. I brought a stage bottle with a 200 bar DIN Valve into a tiny hole in the ground a few years ago. I had a hard time cleaning all the mud out of the DIN connection on the regulator.

My argon regulator actually does have a 200 bar DIN connection. Thus my argon bottles only have 200 bar DIN valves. - Kirk