When to Ditch your Buddy

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I have never ditched my dive buddy. Of course, I have only been diving with a few different buddies because normally "my regular" does the same dives I do, unless she is not up to another.

There have been times where we were "only in the same ocean" by accident ( I tend to get sidetracked sometimes shooting photos) and then we just followed what we were taught, search for a time then go to the surface and look. If the buddy isn't there then snorkel around looking below for them.
 
when they don't pick up the tab for the post dive stop at the BBQ joint.....when they don't stick around to help clean fish or the boat.Seriously,like any other safety issue there are opinions at either extreme.I like the middle.I routinely dive "same ocean"type buddy system.When I am in situations that require a buddy(overhead)I'll leave him at the point Rick mentioned.The caveat or proviso that Uncle Pug mentioned is the basis for the (in)famous"Don't dive with strokes"I rarely dive with or around people that I feel may endanger themselves or me by either poor practices or poor training.
 
My answer would be only to leave my buddy if it meant I would likely be a victim myself but I try very hard not to ever get to that point. I have been paired with people on dive boats that have done some stupid things but never put me in immediate danger. Once in the Caymans on the North Wall I was paired with a guy diving on Nitrox that kept descending to well below 120', I know because I looked down from 120 and could see him well below me. I notified the DM who went down to get him. I suppose I would have if I couldn't notify the DM but if it got too serious I would have left him rather than risk my life to maybe save him.


Scott
 
The only time I had a real problem with a buddy was the first year I started diving! He had been a diver for 5 years!(so he said)
He was a friend of a friend so we set up a late march dive.
We went to cove with cliffs on two sides and a beach at the begining.The plan was to swim out to a wreck 350 yards away!
We surface swam about 250 yards and decended to swim the rest on the bottom.we where down about 10 min. at about 20 feet. All of a sudden he shoots to the surface I surface next to him. He rips his mask off and i notice he has a confused look on his face. He says to me {Im not going to make it!!} I say whats
wrong. He says Im not going to make it leave me here?
I swim over and grab his inflator and fill his vest. I tryed to get him to dump his weight belt but he just kept saying leave me here! I tell him to calm down I will tow you in. He says no and starts swimming away from me out deeper? Finaly I just swam out behind him grabbed his tank valve and started draging him in.
He calmed down and I towed him about half way back. When we
got next to the cliffs he says just bring me there. I tell him you will get killed trying to get up those. He starts fighting me so I towed him in there. I almost got crunched on the cliffs by some big waves. I swam the rest of the way back to the beach put my gear next to the truck. I walked on top of the cliffs till I got to where he was. carried his tank bc and wieght belt back to the truck. I ask him what happened he says he dosn't know but he was realy tired now. To say the least Never went diving with him again.
Rick L
 
Fortunately I have never been in a situation to make this kind of decision. I have had the luxury of friendship (or at least familiarity) with my dive buddies, and have planned dives conducive with our limits. I concur with a few of the above opinions, that if I were paired with a buddy who deviates from our plan, and puts one or both of us in jeopardy, I'd terminate the dive.
 
Very similar to an article in Diver but that was how deep would you go to rescue your buddy? Tough one to call and I don't think I can answer that and with proper planning and a good buddy hopefully will never know...

And I guess if you are diving with a deco profile what would you do if they made a run away ascent? On that one personally I would leave that to the guys in the boat or the safety team (if you have one) and carry on the stops - oh and shooting up a bag if the buddy was in control of that......

Again to echo others with proper planning and a decent buddy hopefully these questions never get answered for real.

Jonathan
 
the first situation that I would leave a buddy: When there were no more M&M's or OREO's.

I have dove with a wide range of experienced divers, and have found that as a team you agree what the dive plan is to be..
 
All but one of my buddys ditch me on every dive, I've ever made.
These are professional divers ! People who are supposed to know what they are doing. Yet they always wander off into the murk and never give a second thought to anyone else. I have only one dive buddy that sticks by my side like glue. A pod of orca could not separate us while diving. He is a true pro and I enjoy diving with him. When I'm not with him, I'm solo .......................

........... Arduous ............
 
I think it depends on the situation and what was planned.. First I believe in the buddy process but I do solo dive also... When diving off most boats off LI, ny its not uncommon for several divers to go down together, and dive in the general area of others, viz is usually crappy and most don't put much effort in diving together.

If it was agreed upon that the buddy system was to be strictly followed, you should stick with the buddy as long as possible, if you are now putting your self in imminent danger, stop... A rescuer is useless if he/she has to be rescued also. In some extreme diving its agreed upon by the divers that after a certain point the diver in tbl would be left on his own. The big problem comes in when diving with long deco requirements or in a penetration dive... If you have a deco requirement you need atleast enough gas to complete some of your requirements.. If you have an extensive obligation going to the surface will probably have severe effects even death, but skipping small requirements will probably just entail a chamber ride.. You'll have to decide how much you are willing to jeopardize your safety.
On rec.scuba this thread is really getting lots of responses, one person brought up a death last summer of G.W., he had a problem (there are some conflicting reports, but it appeared to be a drysuit problem), told his fiancee to stay, she lived, he died.. If she helped most likely she would be dead also.. both were diving rebreathers, with a helium mix, they both had extensive deco obligations since the planned depth was like 300 feet. Blowing a deco on He is much worse than doing the same on air, He died several hours after the incident.
 
Arduous,

If they are 'professional' and they leave you then they are NOT 'professionals!

Ed
 

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