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Don't get me started on the "master diver" vs "dive master" thing. I already started a thread about that called: "Master?..........Really"
What constitutes a dive?
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I'm actually going to school in Salem now, too, Bob. At this rate I'm going to be 50 when I get done...lol. I live in Manchester, MA, so I'm fortunate enough to be about a block and a half from the ocean, a fact that I intend to take full advantage of this summer. If you get back here I'd be happy to dive with you any time.
Ok, back on topic.
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I went to your thread
It's very long being 25 pages! Does it explain somewhere in there what the difference between "Divemaster" and "Master Diver" is? I have no idea, in fact before tonight I didn't even know there was such a thing as a Master Diver. I do realize the Divemaster has more requirements than the Master Diver.
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Master diver is the highest recreational level for basic scuba and its name is a bit of contention as people don't understand the difference.
Dive Master is the beginning of the professional level diving.
Dive Master is the beginning of the professional level diving.
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I went to your thread
I do realize the Divemaster has more requirements than the Master Diver.
Master Diver means different things in different agencies. In the PADI system, it's a recognition that you've completed a certain number of specialty classes. In the NAUI system, it's the academic and in-water portions of the Divemaster training (i.e. everything but the leadership part) ...
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I just finished an ice diving course today. The instructor mentioned over beer afterwards that PADI has a 20 minutes/20 ft/50 cu ft (or something like that) minimum for counting a dive, but that didn't apply to ice diving 
Mountain lakes here tend to stay pretty cold but my computer registered 34F, and the ice was 75 cm thick. With four hours of preparing the site with 10 people and the logistics of getting in and out of a small hole in the ice short dives (ranging from 7 minutes for a rescue scenario to 30-35 minute fun dive) felt like real dives!
Mountain lakes here tend to stay pretty cold but my computer registered 34F, and the ice was 75 cm thick. With four hours of preparing the site with 10 people and the logistics of getting in and out of a small hole in the ice short dives (ranging from 7 minutes for a rescue scenario to 30-35 minute fun dive) felt like real dives!
I just finished an ice diving course today. The instructor mentioned over beer afterwards that PADI has a 20 minutes/20 ft/50 cu ft (or something like that) minimum for counting a dive, but that didn't apply to ice diving
As mentioned above in the post in which I copied and pasted the standards from the manual, it is 15 feet for 20 minutes. (There is an air volume standard that can be used in lieu of time, but I suspect that is pretty rare.) That limit is only for what an instructor can do during a course. The definition does not apply to whatever you decide to log for whatever reason you decide to log it.
Hmm . . . that would mean that all my dives at Ginnie Springs on 6ths have to go? They sure felt like dives to me.
Hmm . . . that would mean that all my dives at Ginnie Springs on 6ths have to go? They sure felt like dives to me.
No. Like I said, that is the standard we use. Your log, you're free to put whatever you like in it. You also left my qualifier off that quote.
We might make exceptions on dives with higher requirements, unusual circumstances, or memorable outcomes, but that's our typical standard.
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