What are the police doing to end the crime on Bonaire? - thread split

[gypsyjim]

CoolTech, your dreams have come true.

You only wish.......

 

[gypsyjim]

stop blowing smoke will you?
What kind of proof do you have that the criminals have not been caught?
If you can't prove it, I'll take Liz's word for it that the Police have caught them.

But you don't understand. In this alternative reality world anyone, and everyone who has the slightest financial interest is automatically a bold face liar, and conspiring with the police and the theives to entrap more victims! :mooner:

Any anyone who's opinion is not as dramatically "hate Bonaire, fear Bonaire", also, has secretly invested in a tourist trap or travel agency, so is also automatically dispensing pure propaganda.

Logic is not applicable in this alternative reality. Sorry.

 

[marine68]

I'm not sure if this post is a serious one or not. I do go to Bonaire Talk to read about restaurants, reviews on places to stay etc, but just try to bring up the subject of crime and talk about a crime that has taken place and your conversation is quickly squashed. In order to talk about being a victim of crime you must have filed a police report. So who is going to file a police report if you have some minor things stolen from a vehicle? Really no one. So you can't even go to Bonaire Talk and say you had something stolen from your vehicle because they will remove it.

Bonaire Talk is a wealth of information about some things but to describe it as being the "true scoop" and "objective" is a good laugh.

Not anymore. The moderators have changed the policy on having to have police reports. Now, if there is a crime, the person who was the victim can post the crime without a police report. ---snip---- There is a very active thread on this right now.

 

[Adaveke]

But you don't understand. In this alternative reality world anyone, and everyone who has the slightest financial interest is automatically a bold face liar, and conspiring with the police and the theives to entrap more victims! :mooner:

Any anyone who's opinion is not as dramatically "hate Bonaire, fear Bonaire", also, has secretly invested in a tourist trap or travel agency, so is also automatically dispensing pure propaganda.

Logic is not applicable in this alternative reality. Sorry.

You are absolutely right. On our trip to Bonaire we will make thousands of Euro's in stead of spending them. How did you find out about us

Just to say I have absolutely no financial interest in the Island.

 

[pilot fish]

stop blowing smoke will you?
What kind of proof do you have that the criminals have not been caught?
If you can't prove it, I'll take Liz's word for it that the Police have caught them.

Prove a negative?

 

[Adaveke]

Prove a negative?

so you can't prove they are telling lies?
Then I'll presume they are telling the truth untill proven guilty.

 

[BDSC]

Not anymore. The moderators have changed the policy on having to have police reports. Now, if there is a crime, the person who was the victim can post the crime without a police report. ---snip----" There is a very active thread on this right now.

Thank you for clearing this up. I did not know they had changed their policy. It appears now that you can post a report about crime as long as you were the one that was the victim without a police report. I think this will make for a better Bonaire Talk.

 

[FastEddy]

I am now on Bonaire for the fourth time. The crime appears to have gotten worse over the years. This is the first time I have seen broken window glass at EVERY SINGLE SITE I have been to so far. You can not even wear sunglasses to the dive site anymore. I surfaced on Red Beryll yesterday to find mine stolen from the truck. At least they left my wife's prescription glasses or she would have been blind for the rest of the trip.

I have yet to see one police car on the road in 12 days.

I guess the state does not really care about maintaining law and order here on Bonaire. Maybe they can charge divers a special "crime prevention fee" for police protection, like the marine park fee of 25 dollars or the airport exit fee of 35 dollars? Perhaps someone will make a special sunglasses attachment for BCDs and market it here on lawless Bonaire.

In summary, I am very disappointed with the lack of visible authority on this island. They also appear to have a street racing problem on the island, as evidenced by all the skid marks and noise of racing cars in the wee hours of the morning keeping us awake some nights.

Next year I will pass on Bonaire and go to a secure resort in Cozumel.

 

[BHB ScubaTroll]

I am now on Bonaire for the fourth time. The crime appears to have gotten worse over the years. This is the first time I have seen broken window glass at EVERY SINGLE SITE I have been to so far. You can not even wear sunglasses to the dive site anymore. I surfaced on Red Beryll yesterday to find mine stolen from the truck. At least they left my wife's prescription glasses or she would have been blind for the rest of the trip.

I have yet to see one police car on the road in 12 days.

I guess the state does not really care about maintaining law and order here on Bonaire. Maybe they can charge divers a special "crime prevention fee" for police protection, like the marine park fee of 25 dollars or the airport exit fee of 35 dollars? Perhaps someone will make a special sunglasses attachment for BCDs and market it here on lawless Bonaire.

In summary, I am very disappointed with the lack of visible authority on this island. They also appear to have a street racing problem on the island, as evidenced by all the skid marks and noise of racing cars in the wee hours of the morning keeping us awake some nights.

Next year I will pass on Bonaire and go to a secure resort in Cozumel.

New member, 1st post... hmmm... I'll take it for what it's worth..

The special sunglasses attachment is called a pocket. You were given the intro that told you not to leave anything (anything) in the vehicle and leave the windows down or the windows might be broken during your 1 hour dive, correct?

Most dive sites on Bonaire don't have glass windows in the area unless you are talking about car windows where divers didn't follow the simple rule of keeping the windows rolled down?

We were there two years ago for 4 days and saw at least a dozen police cars up and down the roads. Have you traveled past your own house reef?

Bonaire is not a state, it is a country that has an economy and everything. To state they must not care about crime is very short/one sided and... without knowing more about your first post, I am inclined to claim sock puppet. Most people's first post is in the introduction area stating they are new to this forum and hello. I am not saying you are a sock puppet, only that it is very strange that your first post is here and is SO negative on Bonaire

 

[marine68]

Eddy, I am sorry this happened to you, and anyone else that has been victimized by a crime on Bonaire. However, I also stand fast about not leaving ANYTHING of value in a car while diving. As a victim of losing a reg, fins, and my favorite mask of all times on Bonaire, I can sympathize. We forgot to bring them in from the drying tables out back, before going out to dinner one time. I just got back from Bonaire last week. I know there is a crime problem on Bonaire. However, through my 22 times on Bonaire, and the great diving I have encountered there, I have learned to take precautions to minimize the crime.

On BT, we are having a discussion about this under Trip Reports, with a sub of "Crime on Bonaire." If you care to read what is being said there, please go to it. My point is not to stay in a rental that is not secure. As I said there, "It is up to the owner, both morally and humanistically, to protect their clients. If they don't, shame on them. If it does not have deadbolts, unsecure windows, sliding glass doors without bars in the tracks, etc. I won't stay there. Living in a suburb of Philadelphia, I have them in my own house. I would expect no less anywhere in the world. With that said, I have never been a victim of crime, after my incident at the Dive Inn, which is no longer in existance.