What are the police doing to end the crime on Bonaire? - thread split

[pilot fish]

You offer nothing, as usual. Not only that, you seem to still be confused on what the real issue is in this discussion

That is of course unless PiFi changes his bashing attention to Hawaii from Bonaire. He really is an equal opportunity basher. He does not need to know anything about the place to fanatically bash it. So, Hawaii might just be next.

 

[pilot fish]

It's for those very reasons, moss, that Boniare should make more of an effort to make it easier and safer for divers. Very sorry to hear about your wife's broken ankle. How about the Gov Bonaire smooth out a walk path for shore dives? It's not like they don't make any money off divers every day, every week, every month, every year, all the time. hello?

I've never had a problem renting tanks for a shore night dive in Cozumel, just my buddy and I. I did a solo shore dive in Chaankanaab, again without any problems renting a tank for me alone. There was never any suggestion that I'd need a DM.

I have friends that dive off their own boat off Ambergris Caye - they certainly don't hire a DM when they go out. Off the Nekton Pilot at the atolls, all the divers do their own thing (only rule is no solo).

If there's any islands that would impose a DM, it would be the Caymans with their extensive regulations on recreational diving.

However, when I did my shore dives in Cozumel, I was on foot, or my car was stashed in a guarded parking lot at a beach filled with hundreds of people. In Grand Cayman, typical shore dives are in front of a dive shop (where you can leave your car) at Eden Rock, Turtle Farm, Cobalt Coast, etc.

In Bonaire, on the other hand, you might drive down a one-lane road to a beach off the road where it's possible you won't see another soul the entire time, especially in the off season. When J broke her ankle at Old Blue, we were the only ones at the site - it's very nice when you want the solitude, but also nice for thieves who can take their time rifling through your truck while you're at 80', and it really sucks when you have an emergency! (Fortunately, after about 15 minutes of figuring out I was going to get J up the hill and into the truck when she was already in agony, a couple other divers showed up and gave me a hand so we could lift her gently rather than drag her screaming).

 

[pilot fish]

Only in your narrow, self serving world are demands for safety for divers called bashing. Again, you are totally mising the point in this discussion. What is hilarious is that you think other people have no clue.

That is of course unless PiFi changes his bashing attention to Hawaii from Bonaire. He really is an equal opportunity basher. He does not need to know anything about the place to fanatically bash it. So, Hawaii might just be next.

 

[pilot fish]

In an effort to keep this thread as open and as fair as possible, without it degenerating into a flame fest, as SS desires, I will no longer respond to the rattles of scubasteve. If he wants to continue to insult and distort, he can do it on his own.

 

[BHB ScubaTroll]

Adaveke, cool tech, what the police SAY they are doing and what is ACTUALLY being done, are two different matters entirely. There has been no resulting crime reduction to prove ANYTHING is being done. That would be the proof.

... and with that statement, I leave this thread.

You have 0 proof to back up your statement that what the people who live on Bonaire "say" the police are doing and what the police are "actually" doing are two different matters entirely.

You have 0 proof of "there has been no resulting crime reduction..."
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You HAVE proven what people on this thread are saying... No amount of information will be acceptable to you.

So, it is a useless thread for clearing things up about Bonaire, but is a very useful thread to quell hijack attempts from other Bonaire threads. I am glad I created it. Other than that, I am out of this thread as there are no more dead horses to beat and it is a great playground for someone to have a good time who doesn't want to believe the residents who actually live there.

 

[mike_s]

I will no longer respond to the rattles of scubasteve. .

really?

promise?

 

[ScubaSteve]

really?

promise?

He has promised this before. Now that he won't respond to me I can now bring up the story of the post that was just posted where the thieves that committed a couple robberies have been caught and quite quickly. Too bad that never happens according to PiFi. At least the rest of the world knows.

 

[Adaveke]

It's for those very reasons, moss, that Boniare should make more of an effort to make it easier and safer for divers. Very sorry to hear about your wife's broken ankle. How about the Gov Bonaire smooth out a walk path for shore dives? It's not like they don't make any money off divers every day, every week, every month, every year, all the time. hello?

Good thinking on your part. Let's destroy some nature above water so we have easy access to the world below the surface...
We already have an impact on nature when we are scuba diving let's not make things worse please.

Shall we pave the roads in the wildlife sanctuaries in Kenya as well so the tourists don't have to bump around in their vehicle?

 

[Papa_Bear]

I do believe there would be less impact on the shore if steps or hand rails were installed! We have them at our Park at Catalina and they lessen the impact of divers entering and exiting everywhere! You could take 48" of shore and save the rest! 48" by 10ft of cement would not be bad for the environment or the divers!

 

[Papa_Bear]

I've never had a problem renting tanks for a shore night dive in Cozumel, just my buddy and I. I did a solo shore dive in Chaankanaab, again without any problems renting a tank for me alone. There was never any suggestion that I'd need a DM.

I have friends that dive off their own boat off Ambergris Caye - they certainly don't hire a DM when they go out. Off the Nekton Pilot at the atolls, all the divers do their own thing (only rule is no solo).

If there's any islands that would impose a DM, it would be the Caymans with their extensive regulations on recreational diving.

However, when I did my shore dives in Cozumel, I was on foot, or my car was stashed in a guarded parking lot at a beach filled with hundreds of people. In Grand Cayman, typical shore dives are in front of a dive shop (where you can leave your car) at Eden Rock, Turtle Farm, Cobalt Coast, etc.

In Bonaire, on the other hand, you might drive down a one-lane road to a beach off the road where it's possible you won't see another soul the entire time, especially in the off season. When J broke her ankle at Old Blue, we were the only ones at the site - it's very nice when you want the solitude, but also nice for thieves who can take their time rifling through your truck while you're at 80', and it really sucks when you have an emergency! (Fortunately, after about 15 minutes of figuring out I was going to get J up the hill and into the truck when she was already in agony, a couple other divers showed up and gave me a hand so we could lift her gently rather than drag her screaming).

More of the adventure! Sorry to hear, but I broke my arm 12 miles into the Imperial Sand dunes and had to ride my Quad back to camp and drive home to get help! So it is the price we pay!

Chaankanab is different than the other part of the park and yes you can checkout a tank and dive there with 50 other divers and snorkelers, but I still say Bonaire is unique! That is the beauty and the curse both of the island and type of diving!

Even in GC I hide my camera when parked and didn't leave it in plain sight!